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    Just wondering about people using these cards, I'm looking at upgrading in the near future and wanted to know what the difference is between these two cards other then the $200 price difference! All replies greatly appreciated!
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    answer: X800XL...
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    I'd also check out the Nvidia 6800GT OC if your getting a top end system. With this card you will be able to run Water=3.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chivas:
    I'd also check out the Nvidia 6800GT OC if your getting a top end system. With this card you will be able to run Water=3. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    It's all very very relative, with a single gt on a good machine (system specs mean a lot to this discussion!), fps will be about same as on a previous generation top end card running water=2, so all of the fps advantage goes away for better eye candy.
    For the price, the x800XL is a much better selection than the pro, or even the 6800, because some $100 is still a lot.

    On a side note, why everyone goes for the bfg gt oc? About any 6800 can reach the same 370 core with standard cooling. Does it have higher 3d voltage than normal as the ultra (would seem to be a good reason to buy it then, as most 6800gt over clocks well beyond 400mhz usually only fail because of that)?
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    well firstly you must ask yourself what games do you play the most. If it is this game then stay away from ATI cards for now. Nvidia cards have consistently been out performing ATI cards for the past year and a half when it comes to running any of the IL-2 series games. I do not know if it has been longer than that because prior to a year and a half ago I did not dable into computers. To back up my claim I will post one of many bench marks that I have seen where ATI and Nvidia cards are compaired to each other.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...27gpu2_24.html
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bolillo_loco:
    well firstly you must ask yourself what games do you play the most. If it is this game then stay away from ATI cards for now. Nvidia cards have consistently been out performing ATI cards for the past year and a half when it comes to running any of the IL-2 series games. I do not know if it has been longer than that because prior to a year and a half ago I did not dable into computers. To back up my claim I will post one of many bench marks that I have seen where ATI and Nvidia cards are compaired to each other.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...27gpu2_24.html <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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    Hang on...let me join Coastie on that one:

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    There's more to it than just the video card. This game is very CPU and RAM dependant as well. Post your diagnosis over at Community Help forum for your best upgrade advice. If you need instructions, see Luckyboy's Guide For Complete Users.
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    yes I would agree that there is more to it than the video. I can get more FPS in my PIV with a 5200 ultra than I can with my PIII with a 6800GT. I get bored sometimes and swap out vid cards in my computers and test them out.

    coastie go ahead and laugh all you want the bench marks do not lie. nvida gives ati the smack down on open gl games and in return ati gives nvidia the smack down on direct x games. just so happens that this game favors open gl.
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    Loco, I really did not feel like going into this, I will sum it up.

    Those tests are such ****. I can show you several tests where ATI smacks Nvidia with this game.

    This game has so many things that can be tweaked. I do like to see this game used in comparisons for cards because it shows how intense this game is. But In my opinion, it should not be used because there are just too many variables in setup.

    I promise you I can tweak an ATI system to match and probably beat an Nvidia system.

    We all know this game was built for Nvidia cards. So, That means that more than likely the standard ATI settings in IL2 setup are likely a "best guess" by Olegs team.

    One of about another 100 things is drivers. The Cat 4.12's used for the test had a few problems with the game as did the 4.11, 5.1 and 5.2's. The 5.3's are the drivers of choice by me right now(not including my current set of betas).

    Here is an exerpt from page one of the xbit article:
    "In all cases we only adjusted those settings which are accessible to any user; we didn€t change games€ configuration files, though it was possible in some cases, because an ordinary user is unlikely to be into editing various CFG or INI-files. The maximum graphics quality settings were selected in each game, the same for graphics cards on ATI€s and NVIDIA€s GPUs."

    I know for a fact that using the standard x800 series settings will not give best performance with the newer cards. It also says they use "standard AI setting" in the CCC which will hinder performance on the new series of cards(with some drivers).

    There are just too many variables to trust these type of comparisons for this game.

    Ask, Hunter_82 who has tried every card imaginable with this game.

    The bottom line is that ANY of the high end cards will get you nearly identical numbers after all is said and done.

    As for the original poster: I am sorry for this partial hyjack. My recommendation is for the X800XL also. It is the best bang for the buck right now IMHO.

    Good Luck!
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