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    Haigotron's Avatar Senior Member
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    The JU-88. Wikipedia told me so.
    it won the war on the server i was on last night...
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    it won the war on the server i was on last night...[/QUOTE]


    First rule of luftwhining.
    "it won the war" is the proper responce when faced with facts.

    Another fact, it did not loose the war.....
    That was left to Luftwaffe planes.

    Sergio
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  3. #53
    Originally posted by Abbuzze:
    The P51 was of course a very good plane with some exceptional attributes. But it wasnâ´t the ÃÅ“berplane some people believe...
    Your absolutely right, of course.

    However, wars are won by projecting airpower deep into enemy territory. The mustang for its faults could do just that. Better than any other production aircraft of the war. That is why it was the best. All other arguments about performance and firepower are of a lesser importance.
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    In answer to the question posed in the title of this thread, I have it on good authority that the P-51 was an aeroplane.
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    Sorry old chap, we are going to need a couple three-thousand charts before your statement will be accepted.
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    ICDP--I agree with Kahuna. We have got two versions of the Fw190D9 and also a Ta152H that barely saw service. We also have the very late war Bf109K4 qwith 1.98ATA. For some reason the USAAF is left with early 1944 P51's that were not representative of the mid-late 1944 higher boosted P51's. I know about the MkIII and the P38L but some late 1944 standard boost P51D's would be nice. Also bear in mind that the Mustang MkIII was actually introduced prior to the 109K4 and the 190D.

    Despite being forced to fly an early P51D against the latewar Doras and 109K's I still more than hold my own in it. If the devs were to give the P51D-20 a more realistic boost level it would create a correct and representative late 1944 USAAF planeset.

    Imagine the outcry if online map designers pitted the P51's and SpitIX 25lb against only 1943 109G6's and Fw190A8's. That is the reverse scenario of what P51D flyers have been putting up with since the release of PF. Flying around in their early 1944 boost level P51D's against the late 1944 and early 1945 LW fighters.

    Kahuna I assume all this information has alreadt been sent to the devs? I would dearly love to see a proper boosted late 1944 P51D before the sim is wrapped up for good.
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    Thank you for understanding my point ICDP
    The late model 190D9 & 109K4(both models) have the higher boost levels over factory specs. Why should the P51D-20NA be left out of the known specifications operating on 150 grade fuel by the summer or fall of 44' ?

    The RAF Mustang Mark IV specifications at 18lb & 25Lb boost levels are listed and could be used as a refrence guide. At 75+ MAP that would be closer too but not quite the 25lb boost level. The Mustangs flying off Iwo Jima in the Pacific operated at 81" MAP or the equivelent of 25lb boost levels. All these boost levels are significantly over the 67" MAP factory standard that is presently modeled in IL2.

    Since the WarClouds server has the Spitfire @ 25lb boost banned it would be nice have an uprated D Mustang with 6 .50cal, better visibility and the ability to match speeds with late model german fighters. This information has been sent into 1C and several of the (blue) beta testers are in favor of it to add equality to the plane set. It's up to the big guy now and it's not a copyright issue.

    Also if the rear fuel tank is the issue causing the instability problems with P51D in IL2 it would be good to have the rear fuel tank dry until over a 75% fuel load is choosen by the virtual pilot. The P51 had almost triple the internal fuel load of the 109 or 190 so it is not neccesary to have the rear fuselage tank have any fuel until maximum fuel loads are needed. And when are they ever needed on DF servers ?

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