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I'm just now reading a number of books which chart the war against the U-Boats and it described the entry of the US into the war as the U-Boat's second "happy time". Thing is that the petulant arrogant American Admirals refused to acknowledge the lessons learned from the British and went ahead and did everything the same way the Brits did in 39. It was only after the U-Boats were sinking 800 000+ tons a month that they decided to humble themselves.
Only thing I can say: Americans
They never change
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It is true that bashing the US is a bit of a fashion now a days, but countries make mistakes.Originally posted by twistedpretzel:
Good job, you bashed america, would you like a cookie?
In this case he is correct, King ignored the british and tried to do things his own way and in the progress making all the same mistakes. Someone from kings office once siad something to the effect of "We want to learn our own lessons and we have the ships to do it with." The British reply was "Yes but not all of those bloody ships are yours, a lot of them are ours!"
At any rate IRL the US navy sucked at sinking U-boats for about 6 months starting in 1942. They had few destroyers that weren't out guarding the convoys. They never did enforce a blackout along the coast and U-boats regularly spotted ships by city light glow.
They did try a few q-ships, but the only one to meet a U-boat was sunk by same. (U-123)
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The Navy guards whos motto was Sighted sub sank same was turned(for the U.S coast)Sighted sub glub glub. And U- Boats had no respect for U.S DD's(i.e the Jacob Jones) and sub chasers where often mistakin as u boats, the U.S.G.C cutter Dione was ramed by merchent(merchent master was repremanded) and the Dickerson was sheled by a fretgher.
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I bash america every day, I was in the american military for 8 years so I can do and say anything I wish about it. I only like the open gun laws and the hunting is easier to do here without a mile long stretch of paperwork, other than that, taco bell is the only american thing I like, I know its low grade dog food but it sure does taste good.
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Correction the taco isn't actually mexican food it was created by mexian immigrants in the US, so were nachos-they were first created in a Texas Diner, if you go to a real mexican resturant they don't serve tacos, they serve tortilla taquitos.
Anyway, I just had I ton of fun in Lock Ewe, I sank 11 DDs, 1 CL, 2 Armed Trawlers, and an Elco, I then sank more merchants and ended my patrol with 86,000 tons, 88% realism.
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Don't bash King too hard. He was a brilliant man working with limited resources. One policy decision that he made that proved to be critical was giving the utmost priority to protecting troop transport over merchant shipping. His philosphy was that the trauma and morale loss of one major troopship was more important than the loss of many merchants. Early in the war when escorts were in short supply, many merchants went to the bottom, but the US had a tremendous record of sucess protecting troopships and I don't know that many if any were lost.
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