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    There is a lot of ww2 guncam stuff posted around the internet these days but I don't recall ever having seen a shot where a plane lost one of it's wings. This is quite common in il2. Is it unrealistic then?
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    Don't know how common it was but it did happen.

    This video shows quite a few shedding their wings.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O9leOmDDGk

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    Click on this and you will see one!

    http://www.b17sam.com/files/damage.jpg
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    I've seen it happen in a few guncam movies, but I don't think it was very common.
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    Originally posted by berg417448:
    Click on this and you will see one!

    http://www.b17sam.com/files/damage.jpg

    that photo comes from an incident where the bomber above accidentally dropped a bomb on the lower plane..
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    Originally posted by berg417448:
    Click on this and you will see one!

    http://www.b17sam.com/files/damage.jpg
    GK!
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    As cool as it looks and as sophisticated as this sim's damage model was when first released, I think the damage model is one of the main places that higher detail could really make an improvement.

    Greater detailed damage model, and NO pancake trees FTW!
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    Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
    As cool as it looks and as sophisticated as this sim's damage model was when first released, I think the damage model is one of the main places that higher detail could really make an improvement.

    Greater detailed damage model, and NO pancake trees FTW!
    Exactly. IRL vast majority of destroyed planes were set on fire or lost some kind of vital liquids. In IL2 majority goes down due to structural failure.
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    Originally posted by tigertalon:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
    As cool as it looks and as sophisticated as this sim's damage model was when first released, I think the damage model is one of the main places that higher detail could really make an improvement.

    Greater detailed damage model, and NO pancake trees FTW!
    Exactly. IRL vast majority of destroyed planes were set on fire or lost some kind of vital liquids. In IL2 majority goes down due to structural failure. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Though I am inclined to agree with you, what do you think is gonna happen when a 20mm explodes in your wing ammo tray and the 20mms nestling inside?

    Similarly, an aircraft pulling G that takes a bad hit to a main wing spar, well the failure might be less to the round in and of itself hitting, but to the load that the now damaged spar is under....

    But generally, i agree. From my readings it does seem like coolant/engine damage and severed control cables are more prevalant in the real thing than having a/c disintergrate around you. But then there's always the Mk108!
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    I think I recall something about Oleg saying that they deliberately made the aircraft structure fail too easily. This was to prevent people in badly damaged planes from doing hard maneuvers. They had no way to prevent this in the IL-2 engine.

    In BoB engine, I've heard the structural limits will be weakened by damage.
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