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    lbhskier37's Avatar Senior Member
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    We finally might get the content that development got dropped for PF. Last time I checked it was a complete stand alone game that could be played just fine. Hmm, I musta got a different copy.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Texas LongHorn:
    Great, a patch with a bunch of ETO stuff and two new maps of Murmansk and Kurland. Where in the heck is the PTO stuff! Last time I checked, this is the PACIFIC FIGHTERS forum. I love the sim but am kinda' amazed they just dropped the development of the PTO aircraft. It's a sorry state of affairs. OK, whine over. All the best, LongHorn <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    Blame the guy who got the PF project started and disappeared leaving Oleg to do the work. Oh and blame the lawyers too. No problem with touching the Eastern Front at all...the Lavochkin isn't going to sue for the usage of a La-5.

    Plus, those two maps are from a third party source which cannot touch the PTO.
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    Ian, Dexmeister's just a troll trying to get a rise out of us.

    You tell Oleg and the guys to take as long as they need so everything is spot-on to what it's all supposed to be and we won't need another patch...... unless they have things settled and we can get the Avenger and the others we were supposed to get. If not that's ok too, we'll live.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> hence the large number of Italian aircraft that are likely part of the patch.

    I cant't wait!!
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
    Blame the guy who got the PF project started and disappeared leaving Oleg to do the work.
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    You got that right. I am looking to change my cell phone service, should I give a call
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  6. #26
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Buzzsaw-:
    Salute All

    All those who are racheting up the complaints about us not getting the patch yet should step back, look at things objectively, and RELAX.

    This patch will be the BIGGEST we've ever gotten.

    It will have MORE aircraft included than any other patch we've ever gotten. In fact, it may have more flyable aircraft included than the original IL-2. Not bad for a FREE download. I won't bother to list all the new aircraft, let's just say that it would add CONSIDERABLY to the length of this post.

    It will have at least two HUGE new maps. Another first for a patch, we've never gotten this before. (Thanks to Ian Boys ) We can now look forward to a whole series of new scenarios set in the far north and in Kurland. We can expect a resurgence of new Campaigns, Missions, and online wars, produced by the community.

    The patch will have quite a number of technical improvements, including enhanced clouds.

    Many of these enhancements are coming unsolicited from Oleg. He didn't have to include them, he just believes in providing the best product he can.

    Other additions are coming as a result of his openness to player created additions, hence the large number of Italian aircraft that are likely part of the patch.

    Oleg is so committed, that even when a player created project, such as the Ju-88, has serious problems which would have caused it to not be up to standards, he will go out of his way to do the work required to finish it at his own expence and on the time of 1C Maddox.

    This game, which is already terrific, is about to have an enormous amount of additional elements added to enhance it even more.

    Last night I was flying online in my trusty P-47D10, and had a ten minute dogfight with 190A6 between 1500 meters and the deck, where I started initially with a energy advantage, but then had it gradually whittled away, by the A6's superior climb and speed at sea level, having my rudder shot out, engaging in a series of of rolling scissors, (luckily I was at 1/4 tank so I could stay with him) before finally winning the fight by having popped my opponent enough in the engine that it died on him, I thought to myself, "What a great Sim, these two aircraft are modelled extremely well, each has its historical flaws, but also their historical advantages, and we the players have the opportinity to experience them."

    Later I flew on the dark side, in a 190A5 versus P-51B's and Spit VIII's and only broke even, but again, that was more due to the other side having the numbers advantage as well as the fact I was rusty in the 190A and put my aircraft into the turf twice and collided once, with only two kills and a couple damages, but again, the modelling of the aircraft on both sides was close enough to make pilot skill the key factor.

    Sure there are a few problems with this Sim, but there are many more problems which were brought up by players, and which have been addressed and corrected already in previous patches. And I have no doubt that some issues will be dealt with in this upcoming patch. So if everyone keeps that in mind, acts respectfully, backs up their comments with facts, and understands that Oleg is the person who has to make the final decision, then we will all be better off.

    We should all look at things objectively, and ask ourselves:

    "Do we really have a reason to complain about this Sim?"

    I don't think so.


    Cheers Buzzsaw <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    clearly a fanboy...... Nothing good news for us PACIFIC FIGHTERS enthusiasts!
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    SO I take it that we will not see the enhanced pre-BOB FM added in this patch???
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
    Oh and blame the lawyers too. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I think the lawyer situation has been overstated... it's not like anything and everything that came out of the US has all of a sudden become untouchable. I know that many of the ships of the US Navy could be included without legal reprisal... the Yorktown, in fact, is exceptional. The Curtiss Demon also runs contrary to the Lawyer conspiracy.

    I think we'll just have to resign ourselves to the fact that we won't see a proper Pacific sim from 1C for many years, if at all. PF shows heaps of unrealized potential.

    Regards, Goshikisen.
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  9. #29
    Ok I've changed my tune.Sure I've *****ed and moaned about PFs status,esp as a standalone sim.But enough is enough.The patch will come when it comes and nothing we can do about it or its contents.For the "fanboys" you do have a very selective memory FB was supposed to be an addon for around $20.Aces was supposed to be a free upgrade.Nothing wrong with the massive and historically correct content in all of IL2 and its offsping.That in fact may be the problem with the oldtimers complaints.IL2 etc. was and is so good that PF pales in comparision.Before PF there were no arguments about the sim in general it was all nitpicking about FMs etc.For all of you who are in love with only the east front ( or great patriotic war ).You don't seem to understand how someone could feel that way about the war in the pacific.I know its been said before but how would you feel if there were 3 maps of EF and no moscow and no bombers.We all know that 1C is working its tail off to try and fix a project that was not theres to begin with.On the otherhand if they let it out the door without knowing how much was missing,it still had their name on it.I truly believe that 1C is the greatest sim creators that have been seen as of yet.So for everyone sake I wish they had just put off publication until it was up to their standards.Lords knows delays in software are unfortunately not a novel happening.So trolls give it a rest and Fanboys just ignore the posts.
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  10. #30
    Then if they've washed their hands of PF , release it to a reliable 3rd party developer to add the necessary planes ,,mainly Torpedo planes & a few other Japanese birds we need .
    If not cheer up..Heroes of the Pacific Sim will
    be released soon .
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