1. #11
    Buzzsaw, you are presupposing facts that are not in evidence. On what do you base your claim that Italian planes will be in the patch? Or for that matter, on what do you base any of your statements, beyond vague rumor on these boards?
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  2. #12
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Texas LongHorn:
    Great, a patch with a bunch of ETO stuff and two new maps of Murmansk and Kurland. Where in the heck is the PTO stuff! Last time I checked, this is the PACIFIC FIGHTERS forum. I love the sim but am kinda' amazed they just dropped the development of the PTO aircraft. It's a sorry state of affairs. OK, whine over. All the best, LongHorn <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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  3. #13
    Come on! Its easy to say relax (Frankie Goes to Hollywood was a gay group, btw ) when you already are testing the patch, Buzz
    What we really need are images or dev. updates, not "wait and you will see".
    What makes me angry is the lack of real info since months.
    Its my opinion.
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  4. #14
    Soooooo,
    What part of this patch can be put into the PF Stand-alone? I could care less about ETO. I've had enough of that from FB/AEP and LOMAC.
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  5. #15
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    no pto planes? are you hallucinating?

    the betty and the KI-44 AAND the KI-100 are in the patch!

    that will balance out the pacific theater well.

    be sure...

    two weeks...

    yadda yadda...

    ad infinitum...

    quack...
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  6. #16
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Buzzsaw-:
    Salute All

    All those who are racheting up the complaints about us not getting the patch yet should step back, look at things objectively, and RELAX.

    This patch will be the BIGGEST we've ever gotten.

    It will have MORE aircraft included than any other patch we've ever gotten. In fact, it may have more flyable aircraft included than the original IL-2. Not bad for a FREE download. I won't bother to list all the new aircraft, let's just say that it would add CONSIDERABLY to the length of this post.

    It will have at least two HUGE new maps. Another first for a patch, we've never gotten this before. (Thanks to Ian Boys ) We can now look forward to a whole series of new scenarios set in the far north and in Kurland. We can expect a resurgence of new Campaigns, Missions, and online wars, produced by the community.

    The patch will have quite a number of technical improvements, including enhanced clouds.

    Many of these enhancements are coming unsolicited from Oleg. He didn't have to include them, he just believes in providing the best product he can.

    Other additions are coming as a result of his openness to player created additions, hence the large number of Italian aircraft that are likely part of the patch.

    Oleg is so committed, that even when a player created project, such as the Ju-88, has serious problems which would have caused it to not be up to standards, he will go out of his way to do the work required to finish it at his own expence and on the time of 1C Maddox.

    This game, which is already terrific, is about to have an enormous amount of additional elements added to enhance it even more.

    Last night I was flying online in my trusty P-47D10, and had a ten minute dogfight with 190A6 between 1500 meters and the deck, where I started initially with a energy advantage, but then had it gradually whittled away, by the A6's superior climb and speed at sea level, having my rudder shot out, engaging in a series of of rolling scissors, (luckily I was at 1/4 tank so I could stay with him) before finally winning the fight by having popped my opponent enough in the engine that it died on him, I thought to myself, "What a great Sim, these two aircraft are modelled extremely well, each has its historical flaws, but also their historical advantages, and we the players have the opportinity to experience them."

    Later I flew on the dark side, in a 190A5 versus P-51B's and Spit VIII's and only broke even, but again, that was more due to the other side having the numbers advantage as well as the fact I was rusty in the 190A and put my aircraft into the turf twice and collided once, with only two kills and a couple damages, but again, the modelling of the aircraft on both sides was close enough to make pilot skill the key factor.

    Sure there are a few problems with this Sim, but there are many more problems which were brought up by players, and which have been addressed and corrected already in previous patches. And I have no doubt that some issues will be dealt with in this upcoming patch. So if everyone keeps that in mind, acts respectfully, backs up their comments with facts, and understands that Oleg is the person who has to make the final decision, then we will all be better off.

    We should all look at things objectively, and ask ourselves:

    "Do we really have a reason to complain about this Sim?"

    I don't think so.


    Cheers Buzzsaw <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Thats all fine and dandy for the ETO/Eastern Front players but lets see....what does it add for us PF players....you know the guys that bought a game marketed as a complete standalone game simulating air/naval air combat in the PTO? What 2 Japanese planes, a cockpit for a plane advertised as flyable, and what? A stick in the eye?

    I'm sure all the ETO guys are happy as hell for all the stuff they are getting, seemingly at the expense of us standalone PF players that paid for less than half a game. Yep, I'm all excited about this new patch.
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  7. #17
    Guys, I'm probably going to get in trouble for sharing this info, but it's about time a beta tester speaks up.

    Truthfully, the patch isn't that great, okay? Betty is a stalling pig on wings, and the Italian birdies are about as good as that fricken rocket BI-1 from IL2.

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  8. #18
    Buzzsaw "It will have MORE aircraft included than any other patch we've ever gotten. In fact, it may have more flyable aircraft included than the original IL-2. Not bad for a FREE download."

    Hmmmm, apart from the â£27 I pay for my 2mb internet connection per-month and the fact that this is about half of what should have been on the 3rd cd I paid for! You don't get anything in this life for free! Point proven (but I can't wait for the new clouds).
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  9. #19
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dexmeister:
    Guys, I'm probably going to get in trouble for sharing this info, but it's about time a beta tester speaks up.

    Truthfully, the patch isn't that great, okay? Betty is a stalling pig on wings, and the Italian birdies are about as good as that fricken rocket BI-1 from IL2.

    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Your pink slip and severance check is in the mail, LOL .
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  10. #20
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dexmeister:
    Guys, I'm probably going to get in trouble for sharing this info, but it's about time a beta tester speaks up.

    Truthfully, the patch isn't that great, okay? Betty is a stalling pig on wings, and the Italian birdies are about as good as that fricken rocket BI-1 from IL2.

    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    You're clearly not a beta tester. For a start you clearly don't have the patch I have ...
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