1. #101
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    Hate to be the devil's advocate, but ...

    Originally posted by Buzzsaw-:
    Because of SoW's open design, and the useability of the tools Oleg will provide, SoW will be a quantum leap from IL-2.
    And so will be the requirements for models. We have all seen the internal structures in the BoB aircraft and to me this indicates two possibilities:

    a) community-based 3rd Party Development will become nearly non-existant (on levels that Maddox Games could certify as "Maddox-compatible") while there's a flood of low-quality stuff (most of which won't be worth downloading)
    b) the only externals developing stuff for SoW are companies (which charge $$$ for their products)

    Originally posted by Buzzsaw-:
    The community which will form around SoW will be huge compared to IL-2, simply because of the variety and number of new elements which will continually be introduced.

    No more waiting '...two weeks' for the next new product, the users will be coming up with so many new campaigns, aircraft, situations, maps, etc. that it will be a fulltime job to experience all that SoW has to offer...

    There's gonna be a LOT of 'SoW Widows'...
    This is where my doubts come into play. There were only a handful of people (hand, as in max 5 fingers) who did produce 3D Models for Il-2 according to standards without Maddox Games having to correct/redo them and with SoW requirements get upped by a good three to five notches. Even Gibbage said the times of individuals producing whole aircraft will most probably be over. And then there is the problem of source material for internal structures. Maddox Games uses authentic factory drawings, but these aren't lying on the street. Finding and procuring them will take time and will cost money. How many modelers are so dedicated to go through all of this? I don't know ...
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  2. #102
    Originally posted by Flight_boy1990:
    Why you need to buy the game,when piratebay is there,and you can get it off it.
    It's a game that anyone can crack and play like a ligitimed player online.

    Personal integrity?
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    Originally posted by Flight_boy1990:
    Noone was talking about you,mate.
    I meant other people.
    I too have bought my IL-2,my 3D Max yes payed all the 3000$ or what was it,well my uncle did.
    Only my photoshop is downloaded from torrents.
    And i wont be ashamed,because i remember some of the moderators here were having the same point of view on the dark side piracy as me.
    But look at what's going on now,but i'll keep low and quiet about it.
    Why you need to buy the game,when piratebay is there,and you can get it off it.
    It's a game that anyone can crack and play like a ligitimed player online.


    Oh no he didn't...
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    Get him BC!
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    Originally posted by csThor:
    Maddox Games uses authentic factory drawings, but these aren't lying on the street. Finding and procuring them will take time and will cost money. How many modelers are so dedicated to go through all of this? I don't know ...
    Much of the German stuff is available from Hafner and companies like it, and there are plenty of amiable document collectors who would probably donate it for free, and there are lots of archival stuff on the internet as well. Additionally, both German and British stuff is relatively easy to obtain from BA-MA and PRO (N.A.).
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    Originally posted by danjama:
    I agree with the above, don't dare suggest that mod users are pirates.

    I have bought every copy i have owned, and in fact think it is way too cheap for what it is. I have bought many versions of the series 2 or 3 times because of house moves and other stuff.

    What a stupid little comment.
    +1
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    Originally posted by Kurfurst__:
    Much of the German stuff is available from Hafner and companies like it, and there are plenty of amiable document collectors who would probably donate it for free, and there are lots of archival stuff on the internet as well. Additionally, both German and British stuff is relatively easy to obtain from BA-MA and PRO (N.A.).
    Still it's not something easily found with a google search. And I know Hafner's prices so it will still take a dedicated modeller to gain access to such stuff.
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  9. #109
    Originally posted by Bearcat99:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Flight_boy1990:
    Noone was talking about you,mate.
    I meant other people.
    I too have bought my IL-2,my 3D Max yes payed all the 3000$ or what was it,well my uncle did.
    Only my photoshop is downloaded from torrents.
    And i wont be ashamed,because i remember some of the moderators here were having the same point of view on the dark side piracy as me.
    But look at what's going on now,but i'll keep low and quiet about it.
    Why you need to buy the game,when piratebay is there,and you can get it off it.
    It's a game that anyone can crack and play like a ligitimed player online.


    Oh no he didn't... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Hello Bearcat,
    My intentions are against the piracy and that's what my post was aimed to.
    So i just want to "thank you" for suspending my account for a week,thanks to rephrasing my post,which leaded to a totally changed meaning of my words.

    You made some big people amazed with your actions.

    Salute.
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    I think that you guy's are glossing over thing's a bit here. Part taking in hacks, only leads to things like ROF...less than ideal for the end user. There I said it!
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