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    Im shure he wont mind. Its a related topic.
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    There was an airshow showing a B-24 and B-17 bomber and my dad took some pictures. Being that this is a thread about millitary stuff, would anyone like me to post the pics?
    Sure, post them.

    I have some nice pics from the Berlin ILA Airshow too i could post if you like.

    At the next ILA 2006 this new giant passenger plane from airbus makes an flight show here. (What was his d@mn number ?? )

    There also many historical airplanes from WW1 and ww2 performing flight shows there.
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    Aside of these the secret weapon projects of the third Reich had blown all dimensions.

    The projects in work included :



    1. Infra red technology for night vision

    2. TV camera guided bombs (known as project : "The seeing bomb")

    3. guided bombs and cruise missiles (see Ruhrstahl X-1 and X-4 or Henschel Hs 293 aswell as Hs 117-H )

    4. mobile V2 launching vehicles

    5. intercontinental V2 rockets (The V2-A9)

    6. recon and attack helicopters (see Flettner FI 282-V/21)

    7. super heavy artillery guns and high pressure pump technology for accelerating artillery grenades (mainly focusing on the V3 or england cannon how it was called)

    8. jet bombers and jet fighters aswell as bombers with first primitive stealth capability (See Gotha 229 or Horten Ho IX)

    9. Vertical starting jet fighters (see Bachem Ba 349)

    10. radar guided anti aircraft missiles (see Rheintochter 1 or project "Wasserfall" )

    11. Air independend propulsion systems for u-boats

    12. improved homing torpedos and rocket launchers for u-boats

    13. remote controlled anti tank robot bombs and weapon platforms (see project "Goliath")

    14. nuclear technology (civil and military)

    15. chemical weapon research on nerve agents that resulted in the creation of Sarin, Tabun and Soman.



    This should be mentioned in special because the allied intelligence had no clue of the existence of nerve gases till they conquered the production facilitys at the end of the war.

    If you now remember the idea Winston Churchill once had to retaliate V2 attacks on London with mustard gas attacks on Berlin..... you can imagine what the answer would had been like.

    And if you compare mustard gas with Sarin ....

    Luckily this never happended because 500.000 grenades and 100.000 bombs were found in underground production facilitys.

    16. chemical research on alternative fuels

    17. biological weapon research projects. (There is still doubt about those.)

    All aviable informations for bio research are based on rumors and no proof , documents ,research facilitys or equipment were found.


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    Most of these projects were pursued in gigantic underground facilitys that still exist today.

    One of them is build into a mountain and has 24 kilometers of street and railway systems, aswell as an own power plant. It is used as an storage facility today.


    I saw a documentary about those secret underground facilitys in which an tv team visited all of them (about 20 across germany) all part of the insane plan to bring germany entire war industry under the earth were it is unreachable even for a-bombs.


    It can be ordered here but only in europe.

    Ive ordered it together with "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas"

    A strange combination i know but i love this movie and didnt want to order it seperately.



    It left my eyes and mouth wide open. Its unbelievable how anyone could build such gigantic facilitys several hundred meters under the earth or into mountains.


    I saw cars driving around there like on highways, street crossings, halls as big as football fields, tunnels which are hundreds of kilometers long surrounded by 10 meters of steel beton. Everything 400 meters under the surface!


    An underground diesel fuel tank in which you can walk because it was tall as a building with capacity for several million litres. And it was only one of eight !! such tanks.


    An Me 262 jet fighter production facility build into a mountain with an gigantic elevator that elevated the fresh finished aircrafts up to the mountain top where an airfield existed.

    Plan was to produce and start 500 airplanes per month there !


    An unfinished V2 production facility that should once become as big as a town build into an abandoned salt mine.



    The first bunkerparts of an underground bunker system that should become Hitlers new headquarters by 1946 in an forest just a few kilometers away from the polish border where nobody would expect it.



    But all those installations were mainly build by concentration camp slave workers under horrible conditions.

    There was an survivor interviewed that was an slave worker participating in building the Me 262 facility.

    He remembered the first words the SS officer told them as they arrived : "You all will work here until you drop dead" "Thats a promise"

    In the next years he and thousands of others were working day and night to make half of the entire mountain hollow.

    The facility was to 90 % complete at the end of the war.


    And all these facilitys , finished or unfinished are still there today. Ha ! Logically ! How could they disappear ?

    So much for the pyramids



    Now imagine the money the third Reich was pumping into all this.



    Here is a pic that was shot 250 meters under the earth of an aircraft production facility (not the one mentioned above)

    The jet fighter you see there is the Heinkel He 162.

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    Impressive.

    Dont forget "zero point" technology!



    One more from the rumor mill.

    Is there a version of that video with English subtitles? Id be interested in getting it.
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    The DVD is here now.

    Sadly it has no subtitles at all
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    Ah yes the ISBN is 3-937163-35-2


    Ok this will take a lot of work

    Here is installation number one.
    Build into a mountain with 24 km of road and railways.

    Finished 1944.
    Ammunition production, research and storage facility.

    A-bomb secure.

    Has its own underground powerplant and water treatment.

    Today its a storage facility for all kinds of important things.

















    The sign on the left wall says :

    No smoking in vicinity of "BUS STOP"

    Looks like there is also a bus traffic system down there























    Sub Level 28 / Section 90

    No admittance for unauthorized personnel

    The commander.



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    Ok and here is installation number 2.

    Adolfs secret emergency fuel tanks hidden under a forest.

    Here you see one of those tanks. There are 79 others of similar size.

    1939 they were all full.
















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    Okay,

    Am I the only one to think that this is where the German's stash their "Good" beer while exporting the bottom of the barrel stuff to the west?????
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    pssssssssssst

    There is enough beer stored there for the next thousand years and the fourth Reich.

    If you keep that information for yourself i will give you a life long supply.
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