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    gee chivas where are those easy ai kill pics buddy.

    here's a il-2 one for you. Me in a Hurricane which Gallad said once.." we were lucky to attack Hurricanes they were so bad"



    The 109 ai (ace) pilot flies directly over me 18 seconds into the game and I pull up and blast him. I did this manauver more then a few times with different 109 e's btw.
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    Just a vertical zoom climb after the turn reversal.

    and Hurricanes aren't known for zoom climbs!

    "M.T.B.W."
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    Seeming as the thread has moved over to the new topic of "what I hate about the AI" ...

    The biggest problem I have is getting the AI in my low level missions set in mountains valleys (slovakia for example)to actually avoid the mountains. Its almost a if they do not see the great hill looming until the last seconds and then go "oh crap" and try and zoom climb over it either hitting the mountain or hanging at the top like a sitting duck ready to get blown away. In the same situtation a human of course just does a chandelle or wingover.
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    Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
    Seeming as the thread has moved over to the new topic of "what I hate about the AI" ...

    The biggest problem I have is getting the AI in my low level missions set in mountains valleys (slovakia for example)to actually avoid the mountains. Its almost a if they do not see the great hill looming until the last seconds and then go "oh crap" and try and zoom climb over it either hitting the mountain or hanging at the top like a sitting duck ready to get blown away. In the same situtation a human of course just does a chandelle or wingover.
    well of course you can add things besides the ai buddy. Personally I find it the most offensive thing.

    I have noticed what you are speaking of too though.

    Got a picture of this?
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    I've flown BOB WOV since it first came out and at one point helped the BDG group test the AI before releasing the latest patches. Although I wasn't near the help many testers were. I was also a beta tester on the orginal IL-2. I was equally feable in my testings of that sim. Don't get me wrong the AI is decent, but at this point noone in combat flight sims has developed an AI that can out fly a human. If your having trouble with the AI go fly against good human pilots for a few months then go back and try again.

    A month or so ago I uninstalled BOB because I no longer have the time to test and prefer flying IL-2 when I do fly. I get my BOB fix from CanonUK's excellent map.

    One v One in IL-2 and WOV are easy but BOB WOV can be very difficult in Campaign mode because of the all the aircraft in the air. Its very difficult to get a kill on the first pass and you cannot stay in the engagement because it takes to long to finish him. In that time you will have one or more AI on your six depending on your config settings. To stay alive you must stay high and boom and zoom to be effective. In IL-2 its alittle easier to get the kill on the first pass with the more stable gun platform and stick adjustablitly.
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    So you removed BOB because "you didn't have the time to test it?" Is this some kind of requirment to use the game I don't know of? Damn,I had better take all my flight sims off then!

    Well of course human ai will be superior. That is if you can find superior humans.

    In my experiance human players run the gamit of good to really bad but I can always count on BOB to give me a truly nice quick mission battle without the MP politics.

    You disappoint my Chivas. I wanted to see how you could do agains't a ace spit pilot and you crap out on me buddy.

    Chivas "If your having trouble with the AI go fly against good human pilots for a few months then go back and try again."

    Not even a close compairson. buddy the two. The ai flies much more realistally IMO to the real world then any goofed up m/p pilots in porked and unporked planes.

    MTBW...
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    Pictures really don't prove anything. You should try Warclouds they have a great bunch of mature flyers with a server that runs 24/7 with ground and air objectives for both sides. They usually fly late model Spits, P-38's, P51's, P47's, B25's, on the Red side and 109's, 110's, 190's, and JU88s on the blue.

    I fly as JG27+Chivas, and usually fly the 190A9. Although I used to fly the 109G6AS as it was great fun against the Spits. Warcouds keeps a running total of your stats so you can quickly see how stand against other pilots. There again I haven't flown for the last couple of months.
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    Pictures do prove stuff if your being honest with them.

    Mp is not for me. I see lots of people think the same way. I have had enough sillyness with that aspect of sim games to last me a lifetime. Also I don't particularly like the Il-2 FM's with certain planes I favor.

    Also I tend to like the BOB sky graphics more then Il-2 but that is just a personal thing.

    These are just personal prefrences.

    Il-2 has a lot of things I do like. The game is a big supermarket of choices. BOB is BOB. Wish it had a bit more. What it does it does well imo. That's why I alternate the two.
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    Now I really do expect you to make me some nice bob screenshots of you downing a spit ACE in a 109.

    No more BS about taking the game off because you couldn't test it.

    We both know the truth. Your a mutiplayer guy which is fine.
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