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    Bearcat99's Avatar Senior Member
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    Please list all your impressions of the P-51D as modelled in 4.03 here. I am not a charts and stats man.... I know something isnt right with it. I would love nothing more than to be proven wrong by your experiences.
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    I think its great. It matches my expectations in almost everyway except initial acceleration but with a slight nose down atitude it picks up speed very quickly. Its high speed turning is excellent and all high speed manuevering can be more aggressive because the wings don't have the same tendency to snap off. It hangs on to the Focke Wulf's tail quite handily and even though it can't climb with the 109 (which seems completely right to me given the realtive sizes and power to weight ratios of the two planes) I have no real problem running them down. The Mustang can also easily run from either one if it has a little alt to work with.

    The plane will glady go into a snap stall at low speed or even at high speeds if you bang on the stick too hard. Although it takes some getting used to, I've only just started flying the Mustang regularly with the current patch. I also think the Mustang's stall behavior is realistic-I've read multiple accounts on the plane's tendency to snap.

    E-retention is another thing the Mustang does not do well but there again I don't think that's wrong. The Mustang is very heavy for its size and the laminar flow wing can't be the best for energy conservation. There's also a video interview with Skip Holm that I downloaded and was floating around the forums a while back in which another pilot who flys the P-51 said that its energy retention was poor and the 109 could easily outclimb it. I know that these are unarmoured/unarmed civilian aircaft now but some of the characteristics-at least in general terms-have to be similar to their WW2 counterparts.

    I also think that de-sync on the tracers helps the P-51 out tremendously. The hitting power of the weapons has not changed at all but the ability to hold the bullet stream on target is greatly improved and deflection shooting has become much, much easier. They're still heavily dependent on convergence for causing significant damage to 109s and Fw190s but you can get away with a lot more against lighly armoured Japanese aircraft. I don't think they're as strong as they should be-atleast relative to other weapons in game-but I still find them to be effective.

    I do a lot of retrimming with the Mustang and failing to do so can really throw off my aim, I also find myself constantly fiddling with the pitch and radiator controls. Right now that's distracting and keeps me from tracking tarets as well as I could be but I'm used to flying the Focke Wulf in which there is almost nothing to worry about.

    Given that its a specialized escort fighter, I don't find the characteristics to be a problem at all. Its range meant it could stay with the bomber, its machine gun armament allowed for easy gunnery and even if it didn't down a fighter it would probably send him home or at least prevent him from attacking the bombers again, and its speed meant it could respond to trouble spots quickly.
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    From America's Hundred Thousand they have an acceleration test. At sea level from 250 mph the P51D accelerates 3.85 ft/sec/sec at combat power(110% for us). 100% fuel.
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    I feel that it doesnt retain energy well enough, particularly in zoom climbs and sustained, 45 dgree turns, like a wing over.

    I also think it is just too slow, and it spins too easily in a turn. Of course im speaking very generally here, but i find it very difficult to put my finger on what exactly i mean...
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    Originally posted by danjama:
    I feel that it doesnt retain energy well enough, particularly in zoom climbs and sustained, 45 dgree turns, like a wing over.

    I also think it is just too slow, and it spins too easily in a turn. Of course im speaking very generally here, but i find it very difficult to put my finger on what exactly i mean...
    I'll put my finger on it for you: It's not a +25lb Spitfire
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    Originally posted by anarchy52:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
    I feel that it doesnt retain energy well enough, particularly in zoom climbs and sustained, 45 dgree turns, like a wing over.

    I also think it is just too slow, and it spins too easily in a turn. Of course im speaking very generally here, but i find it very difficult to put my finger on what exactly i mean...
    I'll put my finger on it for you: It's not a +25lb Spitfire </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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    Originally posted by Bearcat99:
    Please list all your impressions of the P-51D as modelled in 4.03 here. I am not a charts and stats man.... I know something isnt right with it. I would love nothing more than to be proven wrong by your experiences.
    Bearcat... Are you all right man, your behaving in a way that does not befit a 'Moderator' and is way over the top coming from someone like you... Calm down...
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    Originally posted by danjama:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by anarchy52:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
    I feel that it doesnt retain energy well enough, particularly in zoom climbs and sustained, 45 dgree turns, like a wing over.

    I also think it is just too slow, and it spins too easily in a turn. Of course im speaking very generally here, but i find it very difficult to put my finger on what exactly i mean...
    I'll put my finger on it for you: It's not a +25lb Spitfire </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
    I thought it was funny
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    if only it could be armed it with 8 Rockets and had 2 cannones it would be invincible... ok nearly invincible
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    Bearcat... Are you all right man, your behaving in a way that does not befit a 'Moderator' and is way over the top coming from someone like you... Calm down...
    observing is different than whining or crying....BC has put in his 2 cents in a dignified manner.

    lets use this thread to sort things out instead of turning it into a @#$% fest.

    Hopefully the data provided will be of some use for future patches/add-ons...
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