Originally posted by HotSpace:
I play almost 'Full Real' Offline ( I still hate Stalls & Spins as if you twitch you die or is that just me ha ha)........but when I host Online we alway's have kinda wimp settings including WW View sometimes:
Why?
A lot of the new guy's who just brought '46' seems to like those settings.
We're drunk most of the time.
We play for fun and we never try to be anything thing else (See the above).
We have wifes, girlfriends and little baby prefabrications that looks over you're shoulder and say's, 'Which one are you then?' placing their finger on the screen, 'Oh, you got killed; sorry about that!!!' 'You're not very good at this game, are you?' 'Could you put the washing out on the line, darling?', 'The dogs been sick on the carpet again!!!, or the imfamous:
'Fancy a night in? I'm wearing you're favourite again tonight...'
I can tell you that really puts you off flying 'Full Real' Online![]()
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The first four things really are a matter of practise or preparation:Originally posted by EiZ0N:
I've played full real a few times.
I really enjoyed it, but it was a whole different experience really. I spent more time looking at the ground for landmarks than I did doing anything else.
It was fun, but it's not for all the time for me. A number of criticisms:
-Not having your aircraft on the map
-No 6dof so you can't see properly in the cockpit (wonder woman view spoils immersion for me but cockpit always on causes such profound difficulties in being able to see...)
-You can't spot dots very easily in the game, so icons should be on...
-Hard to identify friend or foe since you may not be in contact with friendlies and such.
-External views are fun
- navigation: print out a map, put it in a plastic envelope, and scrawl all over it with non-permanent marker pens. Or just note down the heading from BASE to TARGET and back again...
- Cockpits; a matter of practise really. The more you fly with cockpit on the less you notice it. TrackIR helps but isn't necessary - I used a 7-way hat switch (downleft was broken) for years with no problem.
- Dots: don't really know much about this issue to be honest.
- IFF: makes combat a lot more immersive IMO. Sneaking up on a 109 only to realise that those radiators really belong to a Spit, it's quite disappointing sometimes...
- External views ARE fun. I like to record fights and watch them again afterwards. Unfortunately that means I've got 250-odd ntrks recorded online which I have no way of identifying... if I were organised I'd keep a catalogue but that's a lot of hassle really.
Having said all that, Warclouds is my server of choice, which has partial icons (friendly pilotnames within 500m or so, enemy pilotnames within 50m I think), speedbar and Magic GPS Map enabled. SpitsVs109s is fullswitch but I like flying the Tempest too much...
Part of the beauty of this sim is that you can have it your way.. and with the diverse community and steady influx of new blood you can always find others that share your tastes, from the open pit arrow ridden nugget server to the die hard locked down white knuckle never saw what hit me servers.
To each his own. IMO the fully immersive settings definitely have their place... but when I fly online I prefer the tight icons (from .8f, .6e), speedbar, padlock and full CEM with externals that we use. Occasionally we will turn off icons and/or padlock, but IMO this sim is just too graphically stunning to turn off externals. We like to watch the action after we land/die/bail.
Offline I do it all on the fly depending on the mood..... if I donht want Icons I just toggle them off.... etc.
Full switch online gets down to personal preference anhd lets face it, hardware. For a guy with a great rig and all the perks from predals to TIR it can be great.. but fior the guy with the middle end video card.... a hat switch and 2 years under his belt on a 17" monitor.. it can be frustrating. If I had more time to fly online I think I would be more inclined to fly full.... but my time is limited.. and I cant stand taking my allotted hour or two and flying around for 90 minutes in two missions only to be bounced once and have limited contact and maybe snagging a bandit or two.
But that's me....
I agree with that, for instance, with me it's always almost "full real" except Externals are "ON", needless to say no TIR here.Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Full switch online gets down to personal preference anhd lets face it, hardware. For a guy with a great rig and all the perks from predals to TIR it can be great..
Well, I had my first "full switch" online flight just few days ago, it was in Spits vs 109s.
At first I was totally lost, all this huge cockpit in front of me...I never took the time to study it before, and I didn't even know where the speed gauge was, or things like that.
The first air encounter was catastrofic (not for me though !) because I quite obviously shot down a friendly...
I usually fly "easy" settings HL servers, like Big Top, UKDed1, but I'm sarting feeling the "need" of something more serious and dedicated.
The most important immersion factor to me is that with full switches on you MUST change/adapt your flying techniques and skills, you MUST fly like if you were in a real airplane, and you just find yourself automatically doing things in a different way, like flying S turns to check your 6, or zig-zagging when taxiing on ground.
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bewolf:
Different moods, different settings. If am all relaxed and have the time I love full real. During the week I usually fly semi real like in UK2. Quicker action, still some feel of immersion.
And then there are those days I just have to go into a furball and vent. I think those ppl staying with one option only and see it as the holy grail really limit themselves. But to each their own.</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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I definitely don't fly full-real. But I still leave things like stalls&spins and blackouts on (even if the AI is not subject to it). I also leave externals on even though I almost never pop out of the cockpit during combat. I'll only do it to gloat at my enemy as he comes apart in flame and smoke, hehehe. I don't use padlock at all because I've become proficient at changing views with the mouse and getting pretty good at locating my opponent after he passes.
The one thing I'm a bit embarassed about is turning off realistic gunnery and turning on unlimited ammo (I can hear the *snickers* now). I'm trying hard to improve my gunnery (a serious weakpoint for me). So I change one or both to a more realistic setting periodically to see how I'm doing. It's getting there. But so far, realistic gunnery is so frustrating it takes the fun out of it for me.
I occasionally try navigating home without the mini-map. It IS interesting to that. One time though, I got completely turned around in my P-40E and lined up to land at "an airbase". They started shooting. I assumed a bad guy had followed me home. So started hunting for him. After looking a long time with no luck, I buzzed the airbase to get a close look at it. Rising Sun flags, Betty sitting on the tarmac...oops! So I strafed the base and got 3 more aircraft on the ground, hehehe. Got away virtually unscathed, found my bearings, and made a safe landing at the "correct" airbase! hehehe.
Now THAT was FUN!