YS:FE 2012, Cardio Boxing (Class 2 Attack it) bug | Forums

[K1200GTRED]

It's true. There are several tracking problems in various excersises of YSFE 2012. My impression is that the calibration or recognition of the individual body anchor points is not always the same, apart from fluctuations, which are based on lighting conditions. Also, the spatial depth is recognized differently from time to time. So, the display of the player deviates slightly from the detected or calculated position. In some exercises, the time window for detection is set too tight and / or the tolerance for the position is too low. In addition the movement of the trainer is not totally in sync with the position to reach. Ubisoft should have done a little more fine tuning.
There are some "workarounds" for the player, for example step a little bit to the left or right side, or move a little bit backwards or forwards. In case of the right left kick in Class 2 Cardio Boxing you can get some improvement by concentrating on the acoustic signal. Try to reach the correct position just before the click comes and hold it until you hear the click. Then go on. The results should be definitely better. This "workaround" may help you in other exercises, for example slow and fast mountain climb.

[K1200GTRED]

UPDATE:
Yesterday afternoon I had serious recognition problems, because the low winter sun lit up my room too much. I couldn't even push the starter b uttons in the main menu of YSFE 2012. After I had drawn white socks over my hands, the detection worked relatively well.
In the evening I tried, whether the "white-sock trick" also has a positive effect on the cardio boxing problem, even if the room is lit by artificial light. For this I equipped both my hands and feet with white socks. Than I run the lesson four times. During the first two times I wore the socks on hands and feet. The third time I wore them only on my feet and the fourth time I wore no socks, neither on hands nor on feet.
The results for the 12 minute sessions were: (1) 97% 57kcal / (2) 99% 57kcal / (3) 99% 55kcal / (4) 98% 54kcal. Thus, no significant difference was seen. But I noticed something else. For this exercise you should have a good body tension and tighten the abdominal muscles slightly. Especially when you do the forward right foot kick, one should not let the leg fall off easily, but move it in a smooth motion to the floor, so the right foot touches the ground about the same time with the trainer or a little bit later.
This morning - with artificial light - I performed the same excercise two times more: without white socks 93% 53kcal and with 94% 53kcal. Again there was no significant difference between socks and no-socks. Since the Kinect recognition in artificial light is relatively well anyway, I assume, therefore, that no more marked effect was observed.
I would appreciate feedback whether other community members did notice effects due to clothing or environmental colours and contrasts.

[AuntieParticle]

UPDATE:
Yesterday afternoon I had serious recognition problems, because the low winter sun lit up my room too much. I couldn't even push the starter b uttons in the main menu of YSFE 2012. After I had drawn white socks over my hands, the detection worked relatively well.
In the evening I tried, whether the "white-sock trick" also has a positive effect on the cardio boxing problem, even if the room is lit by artificial light. For this I equipped both my hands and feet with white socks. Than I run the lesson four times. During the first two times I wore the socks on hands and feet. The third time I wore them only on my feet and the fourth time I wore no socks, neither on hands nor on feet.
The results for the 12 minute sessions were: (1) 97% 57kcal / (2) 99% 57kcal / (3) 99% 55kcal / (4) 98% 54kcal. Thus, no significant difference was seen. But I noticed something else. For this exercise you should have a good body tension and tighten the abdominal muscles slightly. Especially when you do the forward right foot kick, one should not let the leg fall off easily, but move it in a smooth motion to the floor, so the right foot touches the ground about the same time with the trainer or a little bit later.
This morning - with artificial light - I performed the same excercise two times more: without white socks 93% 53kcal and with 94% 53kcal. Again there was no significant difference between socks and no-socks. Since the Kinect recognition in artificial light is relatively well anyway, I assume, therefore, that no more marked effect was observed.
I would appreciate feedback whether other community members did notice effects due to clothing or environmental colours and contrasts.

Interesting. For me lighting is pretty much a constant. I aways exercise with YSFE 2012 early in the morning before sun up. The room inwhich I have my kinect set up has very bright office style overhead florescent lighting. I wear a wide variety of clothing colors while exercising ranging from light to dark and bright to muted. My sock colors range from bright florescent yellow with white dots to black. The background seen by the kinect sensor is a large dark wood cabinet with a dark gray exercise mat on the floor. I have observed no significant differences in calorie count or workout percentages due to changes in clothing colors.

[Sabi910]

Hello! I've recognized on your video, that everytime you move up your right leg, you are going out of range of the recognition field. You see this by the white stripes and points that appear. Maybe it could help if you just step a little behind?
I'm also having problems with the kicks and also when i do running. There are times when the counter slows down to 0 km/h, allthough i'm running as fast as i can. And on other times it just jumps up to 15 km/h without reason. The "knee ups" are also a fiasco, some times i get 32. on other times it just count the half (also the right knee up is missing).

[Franco De Paw]

Obviously no fix yet eh... maybe if we tap into the Marketing Folks budget, this could be fixed.

[thunderkatt]

Face it guys, this is just the limitations of Kinect itself and the fact Ubi has your money and couldn't give a monkeys about a few people having problems. The game will never be fixed.

[Franco De Paw]

The original issue we have reported (Class 2 - Cardio Boxing has a serious bug in tracking of right leg during kicks. Almost as if the code to check for right leg was omitted) is not a limitation of the Kinect...I can get the game to recognize every other movement in the game (at some point). No one here will ever get the the right leg kicks in Cardio Boxing Class 2, both the full routine and the 5 minute routine to register. Instead of us showing UBI that it does not work, can someone from UBI prove that it does? My bet the game (code) isn't even checking for those right leg kicks. The game has it moments, like "glad to see your back" when you are in the center of the play area and doing Jab Knee ups...but those are tolerable. My lighting is spot on, I close my curtains and my play area is as good as it gets. I've been doing the Cardio Boxing since Nov 2010 with the Original YS:FE (which caugth to movements). There is something definately wrong in the code.

I will agree that they have our money and it is more important to them to get more of our money via DLC. But come on UBI...you did this to us with the Original YS:FE on the 360. Gave us a cool game (I understand it was the first of it's kind on Kinect) that had flaws...instead of fixing the flaws; a new version of the game came out. I just hope their not doing us again and working on a new release now (don't know how they could with a 200K burned Achievement in this one).

[Franco De Paw]

My wife figured it out... Still an issue but she can get Cardio Boxing Class 2 (right leg kick not recognized for Squat Punch Combo and arms block) to register the kick. It is not that the code is missing like I thought rather the game (not a kinect tracking issue as it works for every other movement in the class) is looking too low for that particular right leg kick. She got it to work by crouching and kicking (right leg kick only), I watched it register every time when she crouched. It is as if it is looking for a very short person. It seems that if your head is too high (for what its looking for) during that kick it won't register.

[Franco De Paw]

Follow up to Wife figuring this out. I too verified that for Squat Punch Combo (Left foot forward; kicking with right leg not recorded) and Arms block (blocking to left; kicking with right leg not recorded) that you really need to squat down (head a couple feet lower than all the rest of the steps in the routine) to get the right leg to register. Unpracticle (as it is uncomforable) but it will catch it every time.

[sjh2006]

Thanks Franco - this works for me too. Found I could get away with just dipping my head a foot or so but, as you say, not really an option for regular use.