1. #11
    "You will immediately have to upgrade your computers upon installing the
    patch"


    Not to look stupid but what does it mean?

    Stephen
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  2. #12
    Hi oleg.Ok,I agree that inertia is already modeled in IL2 series as thats how we get zoom climbs.But how come a 109K4 can out zoom a P47.Yes inertia is modeled but something is not right and I would think its the weight of the planes adding to the inertia.Any comments?

    Since this is for BOB,would it be possible to have short movies to showcase the new FM in addition to BOB update pics?

    Thanks,
    Dale
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  3. #13
    thanks for the info Oleg
    i'm looking forward to BoB
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  4. #14
    Thanks for the information. I think sim addicts generally appreciate this team's attention to FM accuracy...even if it means carrier takeoffs are tougher (and more realistic), and a/c don't automatically recover from spins. Low speeds are where the challenges are.

    IMO, every version and patch has moved us a little closer to what it must have been like to fly and fight these birds. That's why I'm here and don't plan to leave any time soon.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by stef51:
    "You will immediately have to upgrade your computers upon installing the
    patch"


    Not to look stupid but what does it mean?

    Stephen <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Read the whole thread. I believe he meant that if all of the info and calculations for as fully realistic flight as possible were added in we all would have to upgrade our PCs to run the product. As it is now they have made some selective compromises so that we CAN run it. It is still far and away the best thing smoking.
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  6. #16
    Hmm, I just hope the upgrade won't be that big. Not to sure what it will require but right now I'm at the limit. Of course, if it happens to be in a few months then I'll start saving money...

    Stephen
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  7. #17
    Didn't really expect anything for PF (Oleg had talked about the CPU load in even a compromised approach), but boy am I excited about what BoB will offer.

    Thanks again Oleg. I guess simmers can't even kill 1C's passion lol.
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  8. #18
    Thanks for clearing this up Oleg

    Attention, Other topic is locked and i haven`t decided what to do with those who turned it into a friggin circus. I`m tired and cranky, so i`ll think about it tomorrow


    Those are links to the tracks of new FM, some of it at least:

    http://forum.sukhoi.ru/attachment.ph...chmentid=34233
    http://forum.sukhoi.ru/attachment.ph...chmentid=34234
    http://forum.sukhoi.ru/attachment.ph...chmentid=34235
    http://forum.sukhoi.ru/attachment.ph...chmentid=34236


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    http://forum.sukhoi.ru/showthread.php?t=30024
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wolf-Strike:
    Hi oleg.Ok,I agree that inertia is already modeled in IL2 series as thats how we get zoom climbs.But how come a 109K4 can out zoom a P47.Yes inertia is modeled but something is not right and I would think its the weight of the planes adding to the inertia.Any comments?

    Since this is for BOB,would it be possible to have short movies to showcase the new FM in addition to BOB update pics?

    Thanks,
    Dale <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


    Becasue for the zoom climbs we take not just one paprameter (inertion) but way more in a summ.
    What you means here isn't the bug. Some other planes could outclimb in zoom climb that plane as well, be sure. However also dependant of altitude where that test is done (one more parameter to tenhs for the evaluation of such things. Don't please think that only inertion is a key for the zoom climb. It will be a key only with equal other paramaters of two planes in test. But you comparing the planes which has absolutely different technical data at all... )
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  10. #20
    ". . .at lower speeds the change is certainly not significant enough to proclaim a revolution."

    Maybe not, but it seems like the implications this has for aerobatics, ground operations, aggresive low speed maneuvering are very nice! If you intend to augment this with a little stronger gyroscopic forces and behaviour due to the mass of the prop then I will really be in aerobatics heaven! My own little fantasy is that one of these days you will do a dedicated acro sim and toss in an Extra, Edge, Sukhoi, and Pitts, for now it's all about the 190. :-D

    One thing I wonder about though, it appears that the plane is flying much faster than the speedbar indicates. . . if you use F3 view you will see what I mean. using 1/2 time looks right. This might also explain why the aircraft maintains such a fast descent rate and rotation rate during the spin/spiral. Is this just an artifact of using the PF engine?

    Oh and thanks for the intervention Ivan.
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