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    Korolov's Avatar Senior Member
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    After having my Thrusmaster Afterburner for about 3 years now, its worn out (more like broken.) The trigger is busted, the twisting axis is completely porked, and it's become very loose. However, the throttle is still good and my budget is too low to be able to afford something like a complete CH setup. I've got a maximum of $40 to spend, and need something that's USB. It needs to work so I can still use my throttle controller but with the new stick. The stick needs to have at least 4 buttons, a hat switch, and a twisting stick (for rudder control.)

    So far I've looked at Logitech, Thrustmaster and Saitek. I need something thats strong and durable, because I get rough with these things.

    Ones I have in mind so far:

    Saitek Cyborg 3D Gold
    Logitech Extreme Digital 3D
    Thrustmaster Afterburner II (complete replacement that I'd prefer not to do.)

    I also figure that I can use the old stick's pots and good switches to form other controls, like prop pitch, flaps, etc.

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    Korolov's Avatar Senior Member
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    After having my Thrusmaster Afterburner for about 3 years now, its worn out (more like broken.) The trigger is busted, the twisting axis is completely porked, and it's become very loose. However, the throttle is still good and my budget is too low to be able to afford something like a complete CH setup. I've got a maximum of $40 to spend, and need something that's USB. It needs to work so I can still use my throttle controller but with the new stick. The stick needs to have at least 4 buttons, a hat switch, and a twisting stick (for rudder control.)

    So far I've looked at Logitech, Thrustmaster and Saitek. I need something thats strong and durable, because I get rough with these things.

    Ones I have in mind so far:

    Saitek Cyborg 3D Gold
    Logitech Extreme Digital 3D
    Thrustmaster Afterburner II (complete replacement that I'd prefer not to do.)

    I also figure that I can use the old stick's pots and good switches to form other controls, like prop pitch, flaps, etc.

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    Go for "Logitech Extreme 3D PRO". Very precise, smooth, 12 buttons, heavy base, very ergonomic. Since you already have a separate throttle, you can use the new joystick's throttle as a trim or something.



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    Want to buy a cheap X45 Korolov, barely used

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    Korolov's Avatar Senior Member
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    I said I needed a twisty stick Mutt.

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    Get the X45, much HOTAS for the money!!

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    ohh sorry, a twister you wanted...

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    I'd go with the Saitek. The Logi's twist action is very light meaning it's easy to find your self manouvering around in a dogfight, wanting to kick the rudder full left only to find you're twisting it as far left as it will go already. The Saitek's has a much stiffer rudder twist. Less likey to apply itself when you're in the poo.
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    Well, with your avaiable budget, you don't have much choices.

    The Logitech Extreme 3D Pro is a bit too unreliable if you want to get rough with it.
    Its a good stick with lots of buttong and a good ergonomic design, but if you get rough with it, then it won't last long.
    I have one, i should know, and i also had two Extreme Digital 3D (keep in mind that its not the same stick)
    To be honest, the only real downside of the Logitech Extreme 3D pro, is that the twist rudder springs are not strong enough, and the forward bend design makes you twist the rudder wen you don't want it.
    I'm thinking of trying to open the stick handle and try to stiffen up the twist spring, and if i'm sucessfull, then it will become a very good all around stick.


    Another good option is the Saitek Cyborg Gold.
    Its a freaky design, but very reliable and with good precision.


    The medium level Thrustmaster joysticks are very good, but they lack in features.
    A new redesigned joystick, with a better handle and more buttons would be a very good buy, unfortunatly, there is no such stick, they are all based around the same poor design and features, alltough they are very durable and precise.


    Perhaps a good choice would be look around, trying to find a Microsoft Precision pro 2.
    They are not made anymore, but if you put mind into it, you may still find a few avaiable.
    They have excelent ergonomics, a fairly good amount of buttons and placement.
    The only real downside in this stick, is that the pressure is not equal in all direction.
    Its great in the forward and back motion, but too light and the side motion, and when it comes to diagonals, forget it, its too inconsistens (for me).

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    What ever you get ..... unless it will take up an extra USB port to do it and you dont have one.... use the extra buttons on the Thrustmaster stick. I dont know how many there are but you can try it since you willk be keepint the TM throttle..no since in wasting those buttons. I am only familiar with sticks that either for reasons of preference or availability are not attainable for you (MSFFB/X45) I have heard good things about bboth the Logitech cordless and the Saitek....

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