1. #11
    I've actually been thinking about revisiting the Torsk since it's been awhile since I've been aboard her. I'm docked up in the Bush River about 2 hrs by sea or 30 mins by cage.
    I'll keep an on this post to see if anything comes together.
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  2. #12
    This is more or less for anyone interested but the USS Batfish is in Muskogee OK I haven't been to it yet so don't know how much or how accessible it is have never had the time to go yet, kinda sad considering I'm only a couple hours away but just thought I'd pass the info along.
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  3. #13
    I just got back from a business trip in the SF area and got a chance to tour the Pampanito. It was the second time, but the first since I started playing SH. The boat is in very good shape and I timed it right because I had the sub to myself other than a couple of volunteers. They did not allow access to the command room where the TDC was located which was a little disappointing.
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  4. #14
    also speaking of museums, The Submarine Warfare Museum in Groton Connecticut, used to frequent it alot while attending sub school there they had a TDC that you could actually play with an try setting up a shot I know back when I went they did anyways dunno about now mostly nuclear stuff but there was some info on the Gato an S boats.
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  5. #15
    For anyone that lives in New Jersey USA, there is the USS Ling in Hackensack. I've been there once. There is a website for it, just type in USS Ling in your favorite search engine. But they had other WW2 era stuff on display as well. There was also a WW2 vet there. I got the feeling he was there most days. Nice old guy. That was like 8 years ago, I doubt he's still alive but I still have the business cards he gave me. One had a joke on it. "Why does the new Japanese Navy have glass bottom boats. So they can see the old Japanese Navy." Hey, he earned it.
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    USS DRUM (SS-228) is on the edge of Mobile, AL a stone's throw from the USS Alabama battleship. She is on dry land so you can walk the length of her keel and go up a walkway to board her as well. Walk the decks or go inside and walk through most of her spaces. The outside isn't in great shape but the insides are done up nicely. What is cool is that I was just offered command of her recently in my first career, made me remember the real life counterpart in Mobile...
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    Sorry has been a long weekend here on the East Coast of the US. We got hit by one heck of a storm so I was unable to give you a heads up on the progress.

    Well just so you guys dont think that I dropped the ball or forgot here is a copy of the email I sent to the Torsk Voulnteer group. This is the group that runs the museum and keeps the Torsk floating.

    When i get a responce I will be sure to let you guys know. Hopefully we can get enough people interested that we would have the boat to ourselves.

    I would say the best time for the trip would be in summer. First lets see what they say.


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    Hello my name is William Stapleford and I'm part of a large community of submarine enthusiast. Recently I purchased the simulation released by UBI Soft called Silent Hunter 4. Silent Hunter 4 is based on the US involvement in the Pacific Theatre of World War 2. The simulation supports various versions and models of the US submarines. I have found myself very interested in learning as much as possible now about the men who served on these massive vessels. I have also been writing in several online forums to find out how many other people share this interest. I have found that there is a very large following all over the United States and also the world.

    I was once onboard the USS Torsk when I was little and before i was able to really appreciate it. I know that thousands of people each day probably walk the cold steel deck of the ship and take it completely for granted. Its a sad thought to me, as I'm sure it is to everyone who served on her. The people that I have asked are totally the opposite. We are looking to learn, not only from the physical details of the Torsk but also from the men and women who served on her. I know that each passing day we lose the memory and experience of the men that served in World War 2. I find this a very sad thought and hope to be able to learn from them before it is too late. I'm sure the people that have shown interest in the forums feel the same way. We want to be able to get history right before the media rewrites it.

    I was wondering if there is a way to set up a special tour for several people that are World War 2 enthusiast, particularly submarines and the men who served on them. If it is also possible maybe to talk to some of the men who served on the Torsk as well. We could then see and understand the REAL story behind the men who risked and gave their lives for us. I'm also currently writing a story "fictional" of course but the ideas that I could learn would really help.

    I know this may sound like an odd request, and I can honestly say that I never thought I would write a request to learn something after graduating school; however, I feel that by passing the information on to others we could very well preserve the memory of those men. The younger generation including mine takes everything for granted.

    I also have no problem in volunteering to help with your website if it were ever needed. It is the least I can do and something that actually can use my talent. The men and the women that may be interested in attending this tour may also have something they could do to help. I'm hoping to be able to see every nook and cranny of the Torsk and I'm sure from their the questions will flow from anyone that is in the group.

    By taking a good look at the submarine, hopefully we can correct some of the historical flaws in the simulator as well and pass it along to the community. This, of course is the last thing we are actually interested in but it is something that (small) that we can pass on to the community. I would even be willing to lend a hand in helping keep the Torsk in "ship shape" when possible.

    My grandfather served on the DE-181 and he is full of stories and until now I never gave him the time of day. His stories are awe inspiring at times and i hope to be able to keep the memories and stories he has told me and pass them on to my children in time.

    I thank you for taking the time to read this email and again ask that you consider the request. If this is a possibility please let me know. If this is not a possibility that is fine as well. Any information that you can give me to pass on to the submarine community (forums) would be a huge help. After receiving price information and availability, I would then be able to provide a total number for the group and a possible date on the visit.

    No matter what, I just want to let you know that, you guys have done a great job at keeping history alive. I hope you can continue to do this for as long as the Torsk will stay afloat. She is a beauty from the photos on the website and from what i remember.

    Keep up the great work and
    God bless

    Sincerely
    William Stapleford (Submarine Enthusiast)
    Bstapleford@msn.com
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    This was sent today shortly before i posted on this website. I will let you know anything else i find out.

    I'm going to move this over to the subsim forum as well and see who would be interested over there.
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  8. #18
    USS Silversides is located in Muskegon, MI. (only an hour and a half drive from me). Here is the link to their website:

    http://www.glnmm.org/index.htm

    There is even a virtual tour on the website. It looks very well preserved.
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  9. #19
    Recieved a response from a vounteer member of the USS Torsk
    Here it is, they seem more then willing to work with us.

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    William,

    Thank you for your message!

    I appreciate your interest in Torsk - I too am a submarine enthusiast that
    is lucky enough to be part of the volunteer crew of USS Torsk. I first got
    involved in 1997 and have just passed my 10th anniversary with the boat.
    Needless to say I have crawled over just about every part of the boat at
    some time or another!

    Our volunteer crew is made up largely of submarine veterans. However, most
    of the WWII crew are now gone - our regular volunteers are former
    crewmembers of various diesel and nuclear submarines, serving in the 50's
    and 60's. They are a wealth of information about life aboard submarines like
    Torsk, and they are only too happy to answer questions!

    Of course, since Torsk was in service, many of her crew from the later years
    are still around. One of our regular volunteers served aboard from 64-65 as
    an Electrician. He loves to talk about the boat.

    A special tour can certainly be arranged. There are a few things I need to
    know before I can determine how to handle it. If the group is large (over
    10) then I would have to arrange the tour through the museum's ticket
    office. I'll have to find out what the current rate is depending on the
    group size. A larger group would be somewhat limited as to what areas of the
    boat could be visited, due to space limitations and the time of day the tour
    is conducted.

    If the group is smaller, then we can arrange for a more private tour of the
    boat. Since many of the spaces are small and provide access for only one or
    two persons at a time, this type of tour is best done when the boat is
    closed to the public. Our volunteers are typically aboard on Saturday
    mornings from 7 am till noon or 1 pm. The best time is Saturday mornings
    during the 7am-10am time frame (the boat opens at 10).

    Are you and the group local to Baltimore? If so, one of the best ways to get
    to know her is to volunteer on a regular basis. Regular volunteers enjoy
    unlimited access to the boat, as well as additional "perks" such as
    occasional trips to other museum boats and ships, attending strip ship trips
    to the reserve fleet to remove parts from decommissioned ships, and visits
    to active duty ships and submarines. We've just completed a week at the
    Philadelphia Naval Shipyard's Inactive Fleet, removing parts for Torsk from
    the former USS Trout SS-566 (which is slated for scrapping in the near
    future).

    Please give me an idea of group size (smaller or greater than 10) and when
    you would like to visit, and I will inquire as to prices and determine if we
    need to do a tour for a larger group or a smaller private tour.

    Best regards, and thanks again for your interest!

    Gil Bohannon
    USS Torsk Historian

    PS - I spent about an hour playing SH4 tonight after work. I love the game
    but of course, there are many inaccuracies. But it's great fun nonetheless!

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    Please comment back on a date
    thanks

    Any ideas are welcome
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