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    More properly called the Ho IX, this flying wing seems to be nearly useless in Il-2. I can't get it much past 300 km/h at altitude, and the weirdest thing: it pitches up randomly. I mean really steep pitch-up, to the point that you could easily crash. And there are no warning signs - it just starts pitching up, even though I had it trimmed perfectly a moment before.

    I'm particularly baffled by the lack of speed. At 3000-or-so meters, it is slower than several of the prop aircraft.

    Why is it so slow, and what's the deal with the random pitch maneuvers?
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    M_Gunz's Avatar Banned
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    You are doing at least one thing wrong, be sure!

    When the Go-229 was released as a model, that disk came with tracks showing how to use it.

    One way to be slow in it is to start out slow and keep the nose high to hold it up.
    The engines it has have very low power at lower speeds but gain power with speed, as real.
    You've got to get it up to where you can shallow dive to reach good operating speed then
    stay fast or faster than that.

    Other than that, check flaps and gear for sure.
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    and with the ME-262 ?

    it's speed advantage is notable at low and medium altitude, but at high altitude it's like it dissapear.

    I can't get speed at high altitude, a P-51 can outrun me in a ME-262 at high altitude.

    I'm probably using it on the wrong way, but wish to discovery how.
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    Originally posted by Wildnoob:
    and with the ME-262 ?

    it's speed advantage is notable at low and medium altitude, but at high altitude it's like it dissapear.

    I can't get speed at high altitude, a P-51 can outrun me in a ME-262 at high altitude.

    I'm probably using it on the wrong way, but wish to discovery how.
    Same here. I couldn't get to 10000 m with the Me-262, no way. Its climb ability peters out around 9700 m, and just to stay level there, you're puttering along around 250-300 km/h.
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    You have to use the accelorator very slowly at such altitudes or you can "Flame Out".

    A common phenomena with the JU 004b.

    Once you get to speed. Dont back off That is the advantage. Do not attempt to dogfight.
    In/Shoot/out. Is the way with the bigger '46 jets.
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    Originally posted by Wildnoob:
    and with the ME-262 ?

    it's speed advantage is notable at low and medium altitude, but at high altitude it's like it dissapear.

    I can't get speed at high altitude, a P-51 can outrun me in a ME-262 at high altitude.

    I'm probably using it on the wrong way, but wish to discovery how.
    ME 262's could evade P51s in a dive. there are reports that the first time the sound barrier was broken was in a ME262 in a dive escaping a 'stang. and the schwalbe is not a turn and burn fighter.
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    IL2 jets in general:
    Be sure to stay LEVEL a bit after take off to build up speed. Yes they're slow to accelerate, so be patient. Once you get them moving, they're fine, if you don't throw them around too much. Once you have 500+ km/h, you'll be able to use full power without overheating as well.

    I haven't flown a 262 right up high (I've heard it's undermodelled up there too), but bear in mind that offline AI fighters get a speed boost. Try fighting an A6M in a F4U offline...
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    I haven't spent much time with the IL2 jets, do mixture controls work on them and will
    that make any difference? Seems like it should.
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    Originally posted by julian265:
    but bear in mind that offline AI fighters get a speed boost.
    They fly cleaner than we can and they manage the engines exactly but otherwise they have the
    same FM code and models we do.
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    Agreed.

    Still too many of us try to "arcade fly" these planes, then complain when the AI outperforms us.

    The AI does not have a "Speed Boost" offline. It's that they fly better than most of us, quite frankly.

    Check your flying tactics and, particularly, your energy management, even in a TnB machine.
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