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    So, I finally got broadband over the weekend, specifically Comcast. I love it. Obviously a huge jump from dial-up.

    I played my first online games as well, dogfights mainly.

    Are there any dedicated servers that someone might recommend for a guy who's just getting started with IL-2 online? I think for now I just want to do some dogfights until I get more acclimated to it, then move on to some co-op missions.

    Also, question about vulching. Would it be considered vulching if I was flying over a enemy airfield, and the plane on the runway was a bomber whose gunners where firing on me? What happened was I was doing exactly that, and I figured since the plane was firing on me (and actually hit me) that it was fair game. I had circled that field for a while, waiting for the bomber to take off, fully intending to give the player a chance to make a show of it before I attacked, even buzzing him to see if he'd take the bait. Instead, he (or the AI gunner) fired at me. Thoughts?

    All in all, lot's of fun flying online. I haven't touched the offline campaigns since.
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    Warclouds, Winds of War, Zekes vs. Wildcats, all of these are fun servers. You do get bad eggs every once in a while on there, but they're easy to ignore. While you're at it, get Hyperlobby, which will make connecting to servers much easier.

    As for the vulching - all's fair in love and war - but vulching isn't very sportsmanly.Personally, I feel that we are re-creating a war, etc..., but we're playing a game too. Everyone deserves the chance to have their fun. In your specific situation, however, I'd say he's fair game. He has chosen to combat you (ie, he opened fire first).
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    Got Hyperlobby, thanks. In fact, that was the first thing I did.

    Yeah, that's what I thought about vulching. The way I see it, when I'm in a dogfight server I conduct myself to the highest standards: No stealing kills, give players a chance to get airborne, if they stall leave 'em be. For instance, there was one guy online Saturday that kept strafing me and another while we attempted to take off. Drove me nuts. As far as I'm concerned that's pretty close to "camping" a spawn site in a FPS. I finally had to switch to a different airfield so I could take off. Got a measure of revenge though. :-)

    So, are there any other etiquette tips? I'd really hate to be perceived as a **** when I'm just being a online noob.
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    UK-Dedicated servers are well run.Different servers have different rules regarding vulching and what is considered vulching
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    Originally posted by grndragon57:
    UK-Dedicated servers are well run.Different servers have different rules regarding vulching and what is considered vulching

    take a bomber over the field, your crew will vultch for you
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    I would advise against shooting a bomber on the taxi-way. Some points to remember:

    1) Bombers take a lot more effort on the part of the pilot to get airborne. It can take several minutes of gingerly trying not to over-throttle the bugger to get it onto the runway and lined up in the right direction. This is assuming one can get that far without being rammed by a friendly fighter jock who has decided to accelerate blindly along the taxiway at full throttle.

    2) The AI gunners will shoot at you if you are close enough and in their arc of fire. The poor chap in the cockpit probably wasn't looking to get your attention.

    3) Not enough people fly bombers, and they are a primary target in the air. Most online bomber sorties are suicide missions. Killing them on the ground is just going to demoralize the pilots further.

    (I speak as a bomber-jockey.)

    I'm not too worried about you though. I think the fact that you are interested - and concerned - about online etiquette means that you are unlikely to be guilty of any serious errors of judgment.

    TG.
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    Ah, thanks for that Deadmeat. I'll keep that in mind.
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    Interesting comments about "vulching".

    My first online flights were yesterday.

    First in an A20 then second in a Tempest (rocket armed).

    On the second flight I roamed around looking for ground targets with no success and eventually ended up making a low fast airfield approach and offloaded the rockets into the hanger area before attempting to escape. I got one aircraft on the ground. I did think afterwards that the player I hit might be a bit browned off. I made the mistake of going back to see the damage and promtly got pranged.

    Mind you on the first mission with the A20 my home base was under bomb attack (fighter bombers) as I came back in on final approach. Lucky I wasnt spotted. The A20 was a bit flakey by then and wasnt up to any banking and weaving.

    Any comments on etiquette will be gratefully received.
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    Originally posted by asheshouse:
    Interesting comments about "vulching".

    My first online flights were yesterday.

    First in an A20 then second in a Tempest (rocket armed).

    On the second flight I roamed around looking for ground targets with no success and eventually ended up making a low fast airfield approach and offloaded the rockets into the hanger area before attempting to escape. I got one aircraft on the ground. I did think afterwards that the player I hit might be a bit browned off. I made the mistake of going back to see the damage and promtly got pranged.

    Mind you on the first mission with the A20 my home base was under bomb attack (fighter bombers) as I came back in on final approach. Lucky I wasnt spotted. The A20 was a bit flakey by then and wasnt up to any banking and weaving.

    Any comments on etiquette will be gratefully received.
    It really all dedends on the server, different servers have different rules. This makes it important to check the brief for the server.

    Remember if you think the server's rules are lame then fly else where or just get on and follow them. Nothing pees me off more than when some nugget starts moaning about certain server rules in chat. No one forces you into a server so just get on with it.

    And before I disengage rant mode please check to see if the server rules include correct markings, if it does just use 'em. If you are so far up your *** that you can't not use your own nations markings then just go else where. Or if you don't see the point and think its a stoopid rule just go else where.

    Gosh, I am angry.

    Rant off.
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    Originally posted by Whirlin_merlin:
    It really all dedends on the server, different servers have different rules. This makes it important to check the brief for the server.

    Remember if you think the server's rules are lame then fly else where or just get on and follow them. Nothing pees me off more than when some nugget starts moaning about certain server rules in chat. No one forces you into a server so just get on with it.

    And before I disengage rant mode please check to see if the server rules include correct markings, if it does just use 'em. If you are so far up your *** that you can't not use your own nations markings then just go else where. Or if you don't see the point and think its a stoopid rule just go else where.

    Gosh, I am angry.

    Rant off.
    Why are you getting angry? You might want to clarify that. Asheshouse and I both asked some very valid questions.
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