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    Hi,

    I recently got back into IL-2 and thus been visiting the forums here just recently.

    I read that Oleg is making BoB, which will be followed by other WW2 campaigns.

    He said something like: First BoB and then we cover the rest of WW2.

    If he wants to cover WW2, why not start off in 1939, with Germany invading Europe? That way you really cover the entire War.

    it seems to me that gaming companies are reluctant to make WW2 games from the German side.

    -Micha
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    I think if you want to play a game where Germany is the good guys, that's a problem with you

    England vs Germany is as much from the German perspective as any other campaign. The Battle of Britain is significant in military history because it was the first ever battle to be fought entirely by two air forces. What better place to start a WW2 air combat simulation series?
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    Originally posted by Jazz-Man:
    I think if you want to play a game where Germany is the good guys, that's a problem with you

    England vs Germany is as much from the German perspective as any other campaign. The Battle of Britain is significant in military history because it was the first ever battle to be fought entirely by two air forces. What better place to start a WW2 air combat simulation series?


    you seem to have misunderstodd the first poster.
    no where in his writings did he mention the germans as "good guys"


    he asked if it would not be wiser (seeing we want to cover the whole ww2 airwar) to start of where it began,


    taisto, seems to have understood it. as he provided a link to a add-on to 1c-bob wich features the poland campaign, the start of the airwar.



    your post seems to have a hostile tone to it, and i would preffer, you to atleast TRY to act politely



    anyways!



    I would like it if mr.maddox desided to do all the starting campaigns, like: france, poland, denmark, norway. ect.


    and THEN move on to later "happenings"



    all in all, have a nice evening, im of to empty another tuborg
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    I think the reason he hasn't started with 1939 is because, in the earlier years of the war, Germany dominated its opponents. As a game, who would want to play on the side of the countries with vastly inferior planes, weapons and numbers? A game needs a degree of balance on both sides of the conflict. I think Oleg is doing it right by giving us BOB and then adding the other planes in later patches so that those who wish to recreate earlier battles can do so. But to start off, a game needs a conflict that was reasonably balanced as BOB was.
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    Originally posted by mdewals:
    Hi,

    I recently got back into IL-2 and thus been visiting the forums here just recently.

    I read that Oleg is making BoB, which will be followed by other WW2 campaigns.

    He said something like: First BoB and then we cover the rest of WW2.

    If he wants to cover WW2, why not start off in 1939, with Germany invading Europe? That way you really cover the entire War.

    it seems to me that gaming companies are reluctant to make WW2 games from the German side.

    -Micha
    A fair question. Here's how I see it.

    Battle of Britain offers a bunch of opportunities and abilities that the other scenarios that you've pointed out do not.

    1) Two relatively equal air forces in terms of technology (the Spitfire Mark I and the Bf.109E are very close as pure fighters for instance)
    2) Confined geographical area (i.e. the Channel to London is where the brunt of the fighting took place)
    3) Small number of required aircraft needed to create the scenario (a technology testbed if you will)

    Plus....as has been pointed out...there are two teams working on The Battle of Poland and The Battle of France in 1938 and 1939/40 respectively. So...there is a possibility, that after BoB's initial release, we'll be able to fly D.520's and BEF Hurricane Mark I's against the Luftwaffe over France...or P.22s against the 109E's over a true Poland map.
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    it seems to me that gaming companies are reluctant to make WW2 games from the German side.
    I am not sure exactly what you mean by this?

    Anyway I think that a 1939 game would be very boring and very one sided for the good guys.At least in the BoB both sides have a chance to win the air battle
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    Actually, Poland was very active for the Good Guys. Those P11 pilots were very successful, and outside the Japanese perhaps, were the most intensive trained fighter pilots in the world. The Luftwaffe needed that 5:1 numerical superiority. We will see a New Age of flight simming when the LuftWhiners start posting that Numbers were not important.

    Also, I recall reading at sinhq the theory that Oleg may be reserving Hs~123 Biplane Ground Attack (better than Stuka) for Battle of Poland/France.

    Even Better, in Poland/France, we may finally see Bf~109D, a real Dora, for real flight simmers.

    I actually want this (and France with Flyable Fairey Battle bomber) far more than Battle of Britain. Honestly, Spit vs 109E just don't interest me. !!!

    Were there any Ju~86 *bombers* still in use by September 1939?
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    @pourshot: every war-game is from the good site's perspective....same with most movies more recent movies....
    Not all germans where nazi's...I'd love to see a movie/game from a regular soldier's perspective...how they pretty much where brainwashed and forced to fight.

    And if he wants to cover the entire war, it starts in 1939...
    Also, if he would start there or at least make an addon that covers it, I finally can fly the Fokker G-1 and attempt to defend my country
    (I'm Dutch btw)

    @GL2, thats actually a good argument.


    @Jazz-Man, I didnt mean I wanted to play with the germans as the "good-guys"....its more as I stated before....if he starts there, I can actually fly as a dutchy and defent my country...and maybe later even fly with the Dutch Regiment in the RAF.
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    There's not a good side in a war, just victims on both sides trying to survive.
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