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Wow, I never heard of a computer with three slots, thought all computers either had two, or four and ram had to run in pairs only.....interesting.[/QUOTE]
Sure does, only 3. MSI 6712 mobo. I thought that as well untill the 1st time I opened it up, and there were 3 slots. I know it is a few years old, but it works great. A trusted army buddy of mine built it for me and assured me I would be happy with it and he was right. I don't think I could kill my machine if I tried. I know I need a new one though, technology is passing me by. Can't have that much longer. If interested, here is a link to MSI showing my board's tech specs MSI 6712
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I heard mention of the Nvidia 6200. If this is the "turbo Cache" 6200 you would be best served by tossing it. It uses your system ram as its memory and as such takes away from what the game can use!
When it comes to video resolution the highest setting your system will run smoothly is the best and the lower you go the faster it will run, but your CPU and memory are as important as a good video card.
The game will test your CPU's limits tracking all the ships in the game world.
If your game is crashing with "late" saves but loads fine with "early" saves then it may be a memory issue causing it. Check the file size of the games that do load VS the games that crash. You may find that the crashing saves are much larger that the ones that do load.
You also need to follow the golden rule for game saving in SH4. You need to be alone, at least 50 Mi. from any land mass and away from contacts of any sort.
As I said, you need to be alone!
Also you want to be on the surface and have any time compresion turned off before you save.
I hope this helps
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I certainly hope I have not offended anyone
As for running games I do think that all manufacturers should remove the minimum requirements from their pakaging as this can be very missleading. We have to remember that the minimum requirements mean that yes the game will run but on its <span class="ev_code_RED">absoulute minimal</span> settings. as a rule I don't even read the minimum requirements and make sure that I meet the recomended requirements. There is nothing worse than getting home with your new game and then finding out it runs choppy or slowly, I have shelved many games untill I could exceed the recommendes requirements.
Also I have had a hand me down computer and tried to upgrade with cheep ram.You can tell if you are dealing with a bad computer store if they let you buy cheap ram. These cheap sticks of ram are exactly that, they are not ment for the gaming environment. Also if you are running two dimms from different manufacturers they will not proform well and can slow your system down. this can also lead to missleading minimum requirements, ie: yes I have the minimum 2 gigs of ram but thay are not very compatable and not designed for the punishment I am giving them.
There is something that should be said about the brand name you are going to buy too. A freind of mine bought a system the same time I bought my previous system he went with cheaper componentsso that he could have more power that me, in the end he only saved a few bucks but could not run the games I could. It is very wise to post the specs of your system (or potential system) on here and ask the professionals what they think will help with your systems proformance but also be willing to accept the fact that your system is not the ferrari you thought it was. My system is far from the biggest here but with the help of the forum members it proforms very nice.
Now please understand that in no way am I very computer literate (even though I work on one all day
Once again I hope I have not offended any one. And if any of the "professional geeks" can prove me wrong or poke holes in my logic please do so as I am still learning too.
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Wow thanks shadow_858,Originally posted by shadow_858:
While playing in the career mode, SH4 uses 1.3 GIGs of RAM. So 1 GB of physical RAM is not enough. Windows has to seriously use the swap file.
That's why taking the load off your system by disabling a lot of the Windows nonsense that activates with start up is so important.
I tried to find out that info. by bringing up thr "Task Manager" while the game was running, and all I learned was another CTD. It crashed the game immediately.
I knew SH4 used a resource hog but didn't know, that much ram wise.
And I always disable has much "windows nonsense" as you say before playing.
I believe my 265 meg video card is mid range, but I'm glad I have 2 gigs of ram, may buy more.
Also thanks to Dragonfire_Sr for the where to save info., I will try to put it to practice.
Makes sense as my first save about half way to mission star, middle of no where loads fine, but my second save near mission goal, submerged and tracking three enemy ships will not, just get ctd's, over and over.
Cheers Sub_Boy
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Sigh!!!! ........I sometimes feel like I'm running for president: .....It seems that all my words need explaining.
<span class="ev_code_red">Of course I don't agree with it! .....If I did, I probably wouldn't have commented. If you were a bit more familiar with my "track record", you would know that I am frequently in trouble with UBI for speaking my mind, rather than the "Company Line"! </span>No offence Kicarroll, I understand what your saying here(above), but I really, really hope you don't agree with it, misleading the consumer for the sake of sales, and profit.
<span class="ev_code_red">My comments regarding "Low Post People" had one and only one specific meaning: ....Don't be upset at the entire community here based on the comments of someone who is either brand new here, or "just passing through"!!Also as far as your closing comments on the "low post " people, well to put it bluntly, I'm one of them, and its not for lack of love for the game, I cherish the moment when the game runs fine, I just hate when it dies, and the lack of ability to play it.
I am not speaking for all the other "low post people", just myself here, but ask yourself honestly whats the point of spending endless hours typing away on a forum which is dedicated to a game you cant get to work, even with help from yourself, and others.
A low post count doesn't necessarily qualify what the poster says: ...After all, we ALL started out with "Low Post Counts"!! .......But if you get an insulting response from "i_b_troll", who has a post count of 2, ......try not to take it too seriously!!!</span>
<span class="ev_code_red">Hmmmm....., Now here's an interesting manipulation of my words! ....I never actually used the phrase "unproductive low posters"! As I have said before, ....there's nothing wrong with low post counts, ...if the quality of the posts is good. We all started with a post count of "1"!!!In reality i have spent more time on this forum asking you fine people for help than playing the game.
But if I were to hazard a guess why the other "unproductive low posters" are absent its probably because they given up on this game and moved on to somthing else, like going for walk, or a bike ride, who knows, who cares.
After all its only a game.
Any retorts?
....And concerning the amount of time spent on this forum; .....if you are a player who is serious about Submarine Simulations, you will find yourself spending many hours on this, or some other dedicated forum! There is ALWAYS something more to learn, ALWAYS more to find about the game, and ALWAYS more and better mods to look at and possibly download.
If you decide that these points aren't important to you, then you will NEVER enjoy the simulation to it's fullest potential.
If you look at our community in general, I think you will note that ALL of our regular posters consider this game and this forum to be a significant part of their recreational lives!
Is that an adequate "retort"??? </span>
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<span class="ev_code_red">Of course I don't agree with it! .....If I did, I probably wouldn't have commented. If you were a bit more familiar with my "track record", you would know that I am frequently in trouble with UBI for speaking my mind, rather than the "Company Line"! </span>Originally posted by klcarroll:
Sigh!!!! ........I sometimes feel like I'm running for president: .....It seems that all my words need explaining.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">No offence Kicarroll, I understand what your saying here(above), but I really, really hope you don't agree with it, misleading the consumer for the sake of sales, and profit.
<span class="ev_code_red">My comments regarding "Low Post People" had one and only one specific meaning: ....Don't be upset at the entire community here based on the comments of someone who is either brand new here, or "just passing through"!!Also as far as your closing comments on the "low post " people, well to put it bluntly, I'm one of them, and its not for lack of love for the game, I cherish the moment when the game runs fine, I just hate when it dies, and the lack of ability to play it.
I am not speaking for all the other "low post people", just myself here, but ask yourself honestly whats the point of spending endless hours typing away on a forum which is dedicated to a game you cant get to work, even with help from yourself, and others.
A low post count doesn't necessarily qualify what the poster says: ...After all, we ALL started out with "Low Post Counts"!! .......But if you get an insulting response from "i_b_troll", who has a post count of 2, ......try not to take it too seriously!!!</span>
<span class="ev_code_red">Hmmmm....., Now here's an interesting manipulation of my words! ....I never actually used the phrase "unproductive low posters"! As I have said before, ....there's nothing wrong with low post counts, ...if the quality of the posts is good. We all started with a post count of "1"!!!In reality i have spent more time on this forum asking you fine people for help than playing the game.
But if I were to hazard a guess why the other "unproductive low posters" are absent its probably because they given up on this game and moved on to somthing else, like going for walk, or a bike ride, who knows, who cares.
After all its only a game.
Any retorts?
....And concerning the amount of time spent on this forum; .....if you are a player who is serious about Submarine Simulations, you will find yourself spending many hours on this, or some other dedicated forum! There is ALWAYS something more to learn, ALWAYS more to find about the game, and ALWAYS more and better mods to look at and possibly download.
If you decide that these points aren't important to you, then you will NEVER enjoy the simulation to it's fullest potential.
If you look at our community in general, I think you will note that ALL of our regular posters consider this game and this forum to be a significant part of their recreational lives!
Is that an adequate "retort"??? </span>
klcarroll </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
WOW! Thats all I can say..... wait a sec, I can say more, thinking running for pres I see, wow again, and btw, I wouldn't always believe what they say explaining thier words, pres wise I mean, you may be disappointed.
First off lets look at the subject matter of Alieneddiexxx original post on this thread.
Btw I'm not exactly sure what he is referring to in the "mocking" department, as I have read many posts on this forum, and SH3 forum as well, and not seen any evidence of mocking, either directed to my few posts (myself)or others, unless I've missed somthing here.
If Alieneddiexxx considers the complaining of the game(s) with regards to SH4, or SH3, or Ubi ONLY, as mocking, than I understand what hes trying to say.
If thats the case, than I guess I'm a mocker (especially SH4)game or Ubi, as I'm guilty of both, no regrets btw.
I also notice in your post to Alieneddiexxx, two comments that caught my eye, your reference to the 1) "key board rambo's who take liberties with others",top of you post, than followed at the bottom of course, your reference to, and I qoute, 2) "I have no doubt that if you look at those posts that you consider to be unproductive you will see that the posters were recent members, or people with low post counts".
If i miss read this I aplogise, but if you take the time put the two together as I did, as well as couple other labels you mentioned, I took it as this;
"Key board rambos, who take liberities with others, and I have no doubt that if you look at these posts that you consider to be unproductive, you will see that the posters, were recent members, or people with low post counts". Than the "stick with us" line.
See my point now? Considering the trouble I have had with this $60 havn't been able to play game, and bieng a low poster......(just keeping them apart, lol)......unproductive member (not a programer sorry),and what I interprete your words as stated above is the case, than yes I would find it insulting.
I myself have never mocked anyone here as it makes zero sense to blame forum individuals for the many flaws in SH4, as they didn't make it.
On the other hand as a side note, I do have nothing but praise for those trying to fix it, patches, mods, etc.
I agree with you on the high quality of the people within these forums.
The quick help with issues has always been outstanding, especially Mr dgrayson, if I may add.
Something that puzzles me though, reading one of Tambors earlier posts in this thread, he made reference to the few "smart ***'*!! in this forum.
Am I one? I hope not, and if yes, what exactly do you have do to fall in this catagory, as I'd be real interested to know, and defend it as well??
And as to you Mr Micarrol personally, please let me defend more retort's to my post.
First off if if read my QUESTION, as to your beliefs on your statement regarding "mininum system specs are too low, for the sake of not losing sales".
I would ask you to re-read the first two words of my question, they are "No offence", and you would see it was posed as a question, not an accusation, and considering the fact you do work for Ubi Soft, and draw a pay check from them (am I wrong there), I was curious as to your personnal views on that topic.
Some people can or could be bias in the above, your situation, take no offence please.
BTW thanks for answering it above in your reply.
Now in a bit of defence again of my combining " low post" people,.... and.... "unproductive" people in the same breath, I take it thats what your saying, and if so I'll say again, I am one, just one whos not "moved on" yet as I explained in my last post to you, my plausable opinion regarding those who have, and if I didn't have a love for the game, I certainly wouldn't be sitting here typing this too you.
I'm not saying in all cases but probably many, that they may be in reality one and same.
Is that possible or not?
Take me for an example, I have been unproductive, and have posted few posts, except lately for help with the game, but have been a member since August 2007.
Got it now?
I am one and the same, but if you as explained view it from another angle thats ok too.
Btw, your comments on "don't be upset with the entire community", well to answer again, I'm not at all, the game issues, yes, Ubi yes.
Read a couple of my angry posts you'll see.
And in the many posts I've read from others regarding being upset, they all contain the same blame that i can see, the game it's self, Ubi, or both, not regular forum members.
So I have no idea where your comming from there, sorry.
And yes in closing, I am a serious sub sim player who dedicates some of my time to the SH series, lately the forum as well, just not SH4 so far play wise as it still has issues, as you must see by my posts to others I'm working on it, feverishly, btw.
Thanks, for your quick reply!
Cheers Sub_Boy
