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    Originally posted by F19_Orheim:
    Thank you.

    My point is, to make such statements or similar, follows the responsibility to supply sources or proof.. for your own good. Too many statements and stuff what people say in this playground does not come with and sources whatsoever.

    Credibility comes wiht just a nice little footnote
    Yeah no problem, I would have posted one If it had been a good length. But I really only intended to make a general statement which other people can look into if they wish.
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    Originally posted by Aimail101:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Blood_Splat:
    After killing many of his own officers, generals, and scientist. Did it ever occur to any of the Russian people that maybe we need to take this ******* out? It's amazing how much death one man with power can cause.
    Nahhh the vast majority loved him.

    Lots of them still do </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Hell, I know I DO
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    Originally posted by jensenpark:
    the randomness of the terror that seemingly paralyzed any opposition to him.
    I can personally recommend this as I have adopted this in my relationship with my Wife.
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    Mind you, being stuffed and put on display after your death does not rank as one of the things I would wish either.........

    I seem to remember Eva Peron suffered the same and at one point was propped up in the corner in her box of some clerks office as no one knew what to do with her at the time and those in power did not want to make her an Icon.
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    Borat

    Stalin

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    Nahhh the vast majority loved him.

    Lots of them still do
    Correct AirMail. Although much depended on nationality and distance from the Moscow center. A successful mass organized personality cult requires mass yet artificial love. Stalin does make a fascinating psycho study.

    I tend to thik Stalin was also loved by the western "democratic" governments, many intellectuals (by no means all), and their mass media, the New York Times in particular. But then Hitler was also loved for some time in the west, before the war. Builders of modern utopian civilizations is what I think they were wished to be in the west.
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    Originally posted by Blood_Splat:
    After killing many of his own officers, generals, and scientist. Did it ever occur to any of the Russian people that maybe we need to take this ******* out? It's amazing how much death one man with power can cause.

    Your words are simple and logical.

    The reality is FAR from that as history has demonstrated many times over.
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    It's a simple fact that most people will quite readily trade freedom for percieved saftey and security. It's the only way people like hitler and stalin could have remained in power, I mean how many people really give a rats a$$ about their neighbor being dragged off so long as they think it won't happen to them. Simple cowardice, that's all, or perhaps apathy. I'm not sure which I think is worse.
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    Originally posted by Blood_Splat:
    After killing many of his own officers, generals, and scientist. Did it ever occur to any of the Russian people that maybe we need to take this ******* out? It's amazing how much death one man with power can cause.
    The cult of personality etc means people feared the man. The USSR needed him to function as he was so integral to almost all high level decision making. When he died no one knew what the hell to do. I'm sure more than a few people thought it and discussed it but he had so many people wanting to be loyal to him so as to avoid being killed themselves that even your long time friends and colleagues might grass you up if you discussed the possibility to removing him.
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    As my Gramps used to say - he was not good or evil... He WAS. Means - if he managed to lead the nation to winning a war after killing (although I do not know a single fact of murder by him) so many generals, when others would have lost with the same generals kept alive, he was a descent leader.
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