1. #101
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    Originally posted by HellToupee:
    You can infact, the g2 i could hold my stick at 100% full back and hold a turn permantly, at most speeds i cannt stall a 109 even with mad stick manovering, as with a spit i can force a stall with few small movements, hell i can stall it in a dive using just the rudder an alerons. Any idiot can fly any plane in the game, but the 109 is a plane that takes much effort to stall. The spit is great thru all manovers on my machine it still outturns a 109 at most speeds sustained, just its very easy to cause it to fall into a spin at alot of speeds.
    Incorrect. And I just tested it. Even up to 350kph, stand it on it's wing and jerk the stick back and it stalls.

    It does the same below that speed, and it doesn't matter which wing you are on when you do it.

    I did the same thing with the J8A. And got the same results.

    The simple fact of the matter is that you can not jerk *any* plane around in this game. At all.
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    perhaps ur standards of jerk are differnt to mine, but by my standards 109 = jerk friendly
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    Because it gives you opportunity to complain about it.

    Stick centered to immediately full back. Immediately as in instantly - neutral to full authority in less than a second. (probably only a couple tenths if one was to time it, how long does it really take to move any joystick from the center to all the way back?)

    This also is with the last slider being at 100%. I have the rest of the sliders *really* low too on a nice almost linear curve starting at about 10. If they were all at 100% it would be far worse.

    Also, when putting a total n00b behind the stick, all that happens is stalls, no matter what speed, or plane. He couldn't keep anything in controlled flight, and many planes were tried.
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    short answer:
    the Spit wasnâ´t that good that most historians say. but the pilots loved it.
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    Originally posted by Unknown-Pilot:
    Because it gives you opportunity to complain about it.

    Stick centered to immediately full back. Immediately as in instantly - neutral to full authority in less than a second. (probably only a couple tenths if one was to time it, how long does it really take to move any joystick from the center to all the way back?)

    This also is with the last slider being at 100%. I have the rest of the sliders *really* low too on a nice almost linear curve starting at about 10. If they were all at 100% it would be far worse.

    Also, when putting a total n00b behind the stick, all that happens is stalls, no matter what speed, or plane. He couldn't keep anything in controlled flight, and many planes were tried.
    Im not complaining just stating a fact of the game, thatu can jerk the 109 alot more than a spit, i have my sliders set very senstive, i still find it very jerkable weather u stall at every turn or not. N00bs could find away to put a tb3 in a spin and crash so who cares about what a n00b does.
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    It's simply incorrectly stated, and intentionally so - at this point. It's more than just a little disingenuous.
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    Originally posted by Unknown-Pilot:
    Because it gives you opportunity to complain about it.

    Stick centered to immediately full back. Immediately as in instantly - neutral to full authority in less than a second. (probably only a couple tenths if one was to time it, how long does it really take to move any joystick from the center to all the way back?)

    This also is with the last slider being at 100%. I have the rest of the sliders *really* low too on a nice almost linear curve starting at about 10. If they were all at 100% it would be far worse.

    Also, when putting a total n00b behind the stick, all that happens is stalls, no matter what speed, or plane. He couldn't keep anything in controlled flight, and many planes were tried.
    There's your problem right there Vern. At 100% with all sliders is a truely linear pull. No wonder you snap out, your end loaded getting a majority of deflection where you need it least.

    A 10% setting in slot one is giving you 1% stick deflection since slot one can have a max of 10% pull at 100%. Don't believe it, read the original readme.txt when it was changed, or better yet set the last 9 sliders to 0% and pull your first 10%. Watch closely though, you may miss it.
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    The spit is a tie fighter for sure, and what spit could take a 108 from close range and keep on flying like nobody's business, what spit can do this....................Oleg's spit.
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    Strange stuff happens across the boards, takes me on average 10 solid hispanio hits to get a 190 to disengage. Throw in another half dozen to drop it, but so what. Don't see us crying to nerf your rides. We just out manouver and eventually our guns do work.
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    Originally posted by BfHeFwMe:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Unknown-Pilot:
    Because it gives you opportunity to complain about it.

    Stick centered to immediately full back. Immediately as in instantly - neutral to full authority in less than a second. (probably only a couple tenths if one was to time it, how long does it really take to move any joystick from the center to all the way back?)

    This also is with the last slider being at 100%. I have the rest of the sliders *really* low too on a nice almost linear curve starting at about 10. If they were all at 100% it would be far worse.

    Also, when putting a total n00b behind the stick, all that happens is stalls, no matter what speed, or plane. He couldn't keep anything in controlled flight, and many planes were tried.
    There's your problem right there Vern. At 100% with all sliders is a truely linear pull. No wonder you snap out, your end loaded getting a majority of deflection where you need it least.

    A 10% setting in slot one is giving you 1% stick deflection since slot one can have a max of 10% pull at 100%. Don't believe it, read the original readme.txt when it was changed, or better yet set the last 9 sliders to 0% and pull your first 10%. Watch closely though, you may miss it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    You apparently didn't read that closely enough. Be Sure.
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