While it was not me, a coworker had to deal with nationalized health care in The Netherlands. He was sick and had a sore throat, and coughing. The local doctor prescribed him Xanax, a anxiety pill so he could get some sleep. The Dutch pay between 40 and 50% in taxes. Is this really something we need here?
I didn't read the full article, but why would celebrities have anything to say about health care in the first place?
When you have the income that the average celebrity has, health care is a non issue.
The health care issue is founded on the basis that not all Americans have access to it, which is really true anyway.
The only people really in trouble, as far as health care goes, right now are the Americans with no insurance who make enough money that they don't qualify for medical assistance, and cannot afford medical care.
Before my wife was a nurse, and after I was released from the Army, I was the only one covered under my VA medical insurance. Fortunately we are now all covered under her policy.
I know what it's like not to have insurance. It's not the end of the world, and we still took our children to the doctor when it was necessary, just not every time the child gets a cold. I can see the "health care for every one" being abused quite a bit.
I really don't want to wait weeks for an appointment after the health care system is flooded with people who all of a sudden need care.
Without wishing to cause offence, I can explain that. It was simply the doctor's way of telling your co-worker to grow a pair. Just because health care in Europe is free at the point of delivery doesn't mean the medics will gladly tolerate time wasters.Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:
While it was not me, a coworker had to deal with nationalized health care in The Netherlands. He was sick and had a sore throat, and coughing. The local doctor prescribed him Xanax, a anxiety pill so he could get some sleep. The Dutch pay between 40 and 50% in taxes. Is this really something we need here?
Most of us, from time to time, will get sore throats, coughs, headaches, nausea etc. Most of the time these minor ailments will clear up on their own, without treatment. Everybody knows that, yes? The Dutch doctor knew that, and that's why he wasn't overly concerned by your co-workers symptoms. The fact that your co-worker went to see the doctor in the first place suggests he was anxious about it. So the doctor treated his anxiety. Sounds like the doctor did the right thing.
Without wishing to cause offence, I can explain that. It was simply the doctor's way of telling your co-worker to grow a pair. Just because health care in Europe is free at the point of delivery doesn't mean the medics will gladly tolerate time wasters.Originally posted by foxyboy1964:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:
While it was not me, a coworker had to deal with nationalized health care in The Netherlands. He was sick and had a sore throat, and coughing. The local doctor prescribed him Xanax, a anxiety pill so he could get some sleep. The Dutch pay between 40 and 50% in taxes. Is this really something we need here?
Most of us, from time to time, will get sore throats, coughs, headaches, nausea etc. Most of the time these minor ailments will clear up on their own, without treatment. Everybody knows that, yes? The Dutch doctor knew that, and that's why he wasn't overly concerned by your co-workers symptoms. The fact that your co-worker went to see the doctor in the first place suggests he was anxious about it. So the doctor treated his anxiety. Sounds like the doctor did the right thing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yep, sounds about right. Hardly anyone here ever goes to the docs with a "sore throat and a cough" unless it's got onto their chest and have developed Pneumonia. Doctors have been advised to be careful when prescribing antibiotics and anti-virals to reduce the amount of drug resistant strains developing. I suppose if you've gone private you can demand these drugs but that is not necessarily a good thing.
I think you guys are missing the point. The topic isn't about healthcare but CELEBRITIES endorsing President Obama's plan.
I know there are conservatives who'll go kicking and screaming against the inevitable (we WILL get NHC no matter how loud the protests get) but there are some (like me) who want to make sure that the process we follow to impliment any health care doesn't cause irrepairable fiscal damage.
Now that the country has taken the first steps toward NHC I think it prudent to NOT rush through it. (Haven't we learned anything by rushing things through Congress?)
With these last two stimulous packages costing generations of taxpayers, it is well advised to move forward carefully. I still believe we are on shaky financial ground.
Celebrities need to understand this. Supporting a president specifically because he's democrat and not repuplican is a bad reason to endorse someone. I personally believe many act on that principal. Remember the 'I Pledge' video about 8 months ago? That was an anti Bush message more than it was an I support Obama. If they were so politically/patriotically concerned they'd have pledged during any administration.
To me that is the thrust of the topic..... not our bouncing back and forth pro and con on NHC.