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[Charlie_Romeo]

i enjoyed the moral story that u go through in AC it kinda shows you that even "Evil" people can be doing it for a good outcome. Even though u dont agree with it some people might think that this is the only way to see a good out come is from doing bad things. you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.

[UchihaKarasu]

Assassin's Creed has no good or bad guys. Yes to the Assassins, Templars are evil and vise versa. But they are both aiming for a common goal, just going about it in different ways.
Templars want to bring peace by removing free will, believing it is best for the people.
Assassins try to maintain peace by removing the people who disrupt its flow.
Neither method could be considered "good" (though I personally would side with the Assassins)
AC isn't about painting this black and that white, it's about finding and trying to define the different shades of grey.

In the beginning of AC, Altair is arrogant and self-centered, the kind of character you love to hate. He follows his Master's order without question and kills without really seeing his targets methods for what they really are. But the more he learns and begins to see the bigger picture, the more he begins to question, not only his master, but himself. Even you as the player, if into the game enough, begin to wonder about what should really be done. It's a brilliant system. Elements like "duality" are rare in games, or hell, even books and movies now a days. But Ubisoft knew what they were doing, and they did it well. I hope that the story and character development of AC2 is just as good.

[sensationikke]

Originally posted by UchihaKarasu:
Assassin's Creed has no good or bad guys. Yes to the Assassins, Templars are evil and vise versa. But they are both aiming for a common goal, just going about it in different ways.
Templars want to bring peace by removing free will, believing it is best for the people.
Assassins try to maintain peace by removing the people who disrupt its flow.
Neither method could be considered "good" (though I personally would side with the Assassins)
AC isn't about painting this black and that white, it's about finding and trying to define the different shades of grey.

In the beginning of AC, Altair is arrogant and self-centered, the kind of character you love to hate. He follows his Master's order without question and kills without really seeing his targets methods for what they really are. But the more he learns and begins to see the bigger picture, the more he begins to question, not only his master, but himself. Even you as the player, if into the game enough, begin to wonder about what should really be done. It's a brilliant system. Elements like "duality" are rare in games, or hell, even books and movies now a days. But Ubisoft knew what they were doing, and they did it well. I hope that the story and character development of AC2 is just as good.

I would like to post an 'i agree witht his post' emoticon, but i don't seem to find it. But i totally agree.

[Black_Widow9]

I totally agree with UchihaKarasu.
I think the moral progression of Altair helped you get into the story. There are so many games that you just kill stuff without any reason. It made me want to keep playing not only to see the progression of the story but Altair's growth.

[godsmack_darius]

Definatly, if you complete the ame, you can definatly see Altair is a changed man,
or how *SPOILERS*
Malik eventually forgave Altair, I thought nit had alot of emotional develpmont and growth

[AetosEagle]

It's been confirmed that the Templars vs. Assassins will be in every Assassins Creed game, maybe not the Assassins target all the time, but Desmond = Ex Assassin.
Lucy = Working with the Assassins.
Abstergo = Templar company.

It still continues up to the present day just underground.

It's definatly not a question of Good vs. Evil. They both are wanting to acheive the same goal.

[SWJS]

Originally posted by loveboof:
The moral doubt raised in AC1 was a genius move! It made the story/game feel much more sophisticated than some of the other mindless killing games out there.

@dogmeat : Do you think the catholic church liked leonardo? saw him as 'a good guy'? lol

He encouraged free thinking and also enjoyed quite a bit of gay sex on the side

The say I see it, da Vinci will probably be a young, arrogant "Doc Brown" type of character, with wild ideas and eccentric behavior, though nice and friendly.

[OniLinkSword]

I loved the moral conflict. It added to the story, reflected in Altair's character development, and opened up the idea that there is no real "good guy, bad guy" thing just different methods for the same goal.

This is one thing I like about Star Wars Ep3 too.

[sensationikke]

Originally posted by AetosEagle:
Desmond = Ex Assassin.

Desmond is no Ex assassin... He din't even knew about the assassin's... His parents were of the assassin's, he never was one, untill maby now?

[moqqy]

Originally posted by Raide:
I really enjoyed the progression in AC1, where you killed someone because it was your job but gradually you felt it was wrong to kill them.

Do people think it was a good move to add an element of moral doubt to being an assassin? Or should you be an amoral killer?

Amoral. What are you doing as an assassin if you start doubting your job that easily? Gardener might be a better job.