View Poll Results: Which Ideology is better?

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  • Assassins!

    22 70.97%
  • Templars!

    5 16.13%
  • Both

    2 6.45%
  • Neither

    1 3.23%
  • I'm not Sure

    1 3.23%
  1. #1
    Have you ever wondered what the Templars actually want to do with the Apple and how exactly it would effect the world?

    The Assassin's stand for ''freedom'' and individualism, even at the cost of a flawed humanity. They believe that if the life of 1 ( a ''bad'' person) saves the life of many, than they should be delt with.

    The Templars believe in a controlled world where everyone is much similar ( this goes against the our general description of ''freedom'') however this would ensure a perfect utopia ( or near perfect) and provide peace.

    personally i wouldn't mind being mind-controlled to be very nice to everyone, be a good person and know everone else will be like that too.

    however we have seen the Templars as brutal yet the reason for that is because the turned to athiests after they found the apple and so they didn't think there would be any consequences to doing bad stuff, and they were willing to do anything to achieve world peace... just like the Assassin's with their goals ( we should not let the Templars brutality play a factor in this, just which ideology is less flawed)
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    Woah, not every Templar is an atheist, and I think they're behavior has fluctuated between games. In ACB and 2 they were just bad to be bad. In AC1, they had more complicated reasons for doing what they did. Then again, when it comes to free will, assassins, gods and others will put a leash on it.

    But if being mind controlled will be bring out the best in me and get me to become the best that I can be then "yes".
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    I think the templars are wrong, because of one simple reason. They think that order is what's good for humanity, but I doubt that. I'm not saying there should be a complete lack of order, but all going in the same direction is very dangerous, because if we (or rather the templars) are wrong, we're all dead.
    A little chaos creates a buffer for failure.
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    when I think of order, I think of all the things people do instead of bettering themselves or at the most not degrading themselves further. But like many things, I agree with the ideology, not the people as they will of course abuse it as someone (upper echelons of the templar order) will not be mine controlled and abuse the living crap out of it.

    Originally posted by LightRey:
    I think the templars are wrong, because of one simple reason. They think that order is what's good for humanity, but I doubt that. I'm not saying there should be a complete lack of order, but all going in the same direction is very dangerous, because if we (or rather the templars) are wrong, we're all dead.
    A little chaos creates a buffer for failure.
    This reminded me of Dune, where we needed to be scattered and not under the rule of any one person or group in order to reach a higher stage and expansion into the universe as a whole. And you know, knowing the future kind of sucking in a way.
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    I voted both. I believe that the Templars share the same goal with the Assassins. But the means of achieving the goal between the two parties are vastly different. And the consequences of each actions can/will outwardly seem extreme.

    The Assassins clandestinely fight for freedom for all mankind. Inequality, war, famine, injustice and chaos will eventually reveal itself again and again if one person/group(neither assassins nor templars) is motivated enough to capitalize this privilege. And then the Assassin order is once again obliged to repeat the assassinations. The assassinations need not occur if Templars were let alone with their "original" motives.

    The Templars publicly fight for equality and peace but present a different front that approaches the outline of the goal. The Templars, although secret in nature, present themselves as religion, philosophy, law and authority. But as time went by, newer generations of Templars were led astray from the primary intention of the order. The newer generations wanted control and dominion, and because of their preexisting power in the society, they were able to achieve control by barbaric means.

    Al mualim did not betray the Assassin order IMO. This is because he sought peace but saw the flaw in the assassin ways. I bet he made a deal with the Templars that he will join them as long as he will be assured that peace will come upon the Holy Land. But instead he saw war between the Muslims and Christians. So he sent out Altair to slowly bring down the Templar order so Al mualim can end the outrage. Feel free to correct me. That was just my own deduction.
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    Communism or Anarchy....hmmm

    I choose the one that let's me listen to classic rock, let's me run aorund in rooftops in colorful robes and easily ID by all the shanks im carrying lol
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  7. #7
    To quote Al Mualim (who

    *SPOILERS* ironically is a Templar *END SPOILERS*)

    "Peace is something to be learned, to be obtained."

    I think that Human Beings will eventually be capable to put aside petty differences and learn to work together for the benefit of all, a 'greater good' if you will. We simply need to find the perfect mix of sense of individuality and community. To be united, not under a religion, country, sex, race, etc., but as a species. Now if people would stop being so ignant...
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    Originally posted by t260z:
    Woah, not every Templar is an atheist, and I think they're behavior has fluctuated between games. In ACB and 2 they were just bad to be bad.
    Don't put AC2 and ACB in the same category. The Templars in AC2 wanted what the Templars in AC wanted. They just weren't so philosophical about it.
    Also, not all Templar has this view. Take Madj Addin for example, he wanted to kill because he could.
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    Personally, while current society does look down upon in im all for taking the rights and ''freedom'' of people. almost all goverments do this anyway... and the best 1 at it is America! they all say people are given rights and have the freedom to do whatever they want, but you dont! you have to pay taxes, you have to obey the law, being bad is frowned upon and violence is seen as barbaric and then people are against you. the only place you can truely be free is if you are isolated completely.

    let me use an example, if you are ''free'' to do anything, lets say you kill this guy you hate a lot, you will suffer no consequences and live on. However lets say you were programmed not have the destructive and evil aspects of human nature you would never hate anyone and they wouldn't hate you, you would live a happy life. We as as humans are totally selfish warmongering evil lust endulging beings ( who want to be good but cant as it is just too beneficial for us to be bad)... thats just our nature, and thus we shouldn't deserve the freedom to be such complete a$$e$. law tries to take the freedom of those how have done bad but thats too late! the bad deed is already done. the only sure way to deal with the problem is to actually change our nature so we are good, its what we want anyway.

    and as said some have said i do agree that on some fronts we will not develop, but when i say that you would be controlled, i dont mean you will change as a person, it just ( and only) means you wont have any hate or sadness towards anyone. society will still develop and better themselves, and we will still have fun.

    the problem with the assassin's view is that in relies too much on human nature to make the right choice and not abuse freedom forthemselves, however we all know that we are programed to do such. And thus even though they kill and stop as many bad guys they have still done that bad thing..
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    Yeah 4 more targets for me.

    I'm an assassin, all templars must DIE

    xD
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