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    if you could take one ww2 plane and edit it what would you do to it?

    i have a couple of ideas.

    add 2 additional heavy machine guns to the Oscar II. Or replace the machineguns with 2 Cannons in the nose.

    - remove the machine guns on the Zero and add more Cannon ammo

    - add more bomb racks to the Me262
    its got the power to carry way for payload than the current 2 SC250
    i think it can eaily carry 2 SC500

    - try to move the engine of the P39 more forward to avoid the deadly flatspin?
    but i guess thats impassilbe as that would require a whole new design

    - put back 2 cannons on the me109F-G and K
    just like on the E-Model
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    Originally posted by general_kalle:
    if you could take one ww2 plane and edit it what would you do to it?

    i have a couple of ideas.

    add 2 additional heavy machine guns to the Oscar II. Or replace the machineguns with 2 Cannons in the nose.

    - remove the machine guns on the Zero and add more Cannon ammo

    - add more bomb racks to the Me262
    its got the power to carry way for payload than the current 2 SC250
    i think it can eaily carry 2 SC500

    - try to move the engine of the P39 more forward to avoid the deadly flatspin?
    but i guess thats impassilbe as that would require a whole new design

    - put back 2 cannons on the me109F-G and K
    just like on the E-Model
    Lucky for us you ain't an aeronautical engineer.

    You might be right about the machine guns on the zero tough. But the oscar is really a light weight plane and adding 100's of pounds to it doesn't sound right. And part of the Me-262's failure was that Hitler insited on it being used as a bomber and not a fighter like it was supposed to. So adding more bombracks will only slow it down and forces the Me-262 in a role wich it was not designed for.

    I would like to make redesign the B-25 with the Pratt & whitney 2800 engines instead of the cissy Wright cyclone R2600's. They kept making the aircraft heavier, but maintained the same engine

    With the P-51, I would stick a pair of 20mm cannon's in it. This will greatly increases its firepower. Maybe also maintain a couple of .50's, much like the spitfire armament. (and to kill Tiger tanks, LOL )It always seemd unfair to me that the Brits and the Germans got cool cannons in their aircraft and the US remained stuck with the .50's.

    Ow and the Bf-109 would need to enlarge EVERYTHING by about 10%. So the pilots would have more room in the cockpit and there would be more rome for other modifications.
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    A 103 in the nose of the 109g2.
    MW50 boost.
    Toad's stick settings.
    Nice stereo.
    Complete cd set of "In Extremo".
    Insulated beer holder.
    Smokeless ashtray.


    Life would be complete.
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    Hispanos on a Mustang III.
    Can I get a , hell yeah?!
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    -Faster corsair.

    -An FW190 that doesn't complain so much at low speed.

    -New engine in the Ki-61.

    -Faster Bf110.
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    Originally posted by general_kalle:
    if you could take one ww2 plane and edit it what would you do to it?

    i have a couple of ideas.

    add 2 additional heavy machine guns to the Oscar II. Or replace the machineguns with 2 Cannons in the nose.

    - remove the machine guns on the Zero and add more Cannon ammo

    - add more bomb racks to the Me262
    its got the power to carry way for payload than the current 2 SC250
    i think it can eaily carry 2 SC500

    - try to move the engine of the P39 more forward to avoid the deadly flatspin?
    but i guess thats impassilbe as that would require a whole new design

    - put back 2 cannons on the me109F-G and K
    just like on the E-Model
    The Zero's cannon ammo was limited for most of the war by having ammo drums that held the ammo and then later they (like the Spitfire) were able to use belting which greatly increased the ammo supply. The A6M5 series has lots of cannon ammo.

    Apparently with the Oscar with 20mm cannons were tried and didn't work so well owing to structural problems. The Oscar was of really light construction and I think they had problems with the recoil from the cannons.

    Don't know about the 262...that'd be nice to have extra capacity for bombing.

    The engine was located in the P-39 partially because of the cannon up front takes up most of the space. So if you move the engine forward the 37mm cannon would have to go too. The P-63 is the redesign and is much more "right" for having the weight balanced properly.

    Not sure about the cannons on the 109...the F and early G models were much more streamlined by taking the cannons out of the wings and putting a single more powerful cannon in the nose. Gunpods are still an option
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    HEY!!! i asked you to come with suggestions, not kill of mine

    but well i see what you mean and i thought it would be so in most cases
    but it would still be cool with a powerful oscar

    i know the Me262 is best used as fighter but a bomberversion with additinal racks wouldn't be bad

    especially because it has the potential as a fast Jabo
    for the P39 a nose,engine and then only 2 20mm cannons in the wing would be cool

    oh and icefire
    gunpods are powerful ya
    but whats the point with flying so slow and so heavy that you cant get on the tail of anybody?
    they SUCK
    and its a pitty
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    I would redesign the spitfire cockpit for better view...
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    Originally posted by general_kalle:
    add 2 additional heavy machine guns to the Oscar II. Or replace the machineguns with 2 Cannons in the nose.
    I agree. Oscar was the premium ww2 peashooter - it was quite laughable situation, on one hand you have peashooter and on the other one of the most sturdy ww2 aircraft.
    One cannon would be better instead of two 7,62s.
    I know it brings other problems to light, like if it jams, your combat capabilities are paralyzed.....
    But taking the neat alternatives, this doesn't sound all that bad.
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    Thank goodness none of this nonsense can be done in the IL2 series.

    It would end up as dead as CFS.
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