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    WOLFMondo's Avatar Senior Member
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    The fueled and armed P47 is 5000lbs heavier than a fueled and armed Tiffie and both engines produce 2000HP on take off, the tiffie gets a little more as time goes by. I know which one I'd pick for low alt combat.

    Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
    In theory in the game I would be the only person to try and fly it in a fighter role. Ok...there would be one or two others (WOLFMondo I volunteer you! ).
    ha! I'd try but it would end in tears...mine most likely!

    Would definately want offline campaigns for it and would love to fly them in co-ops.

    Will have to make do with the Tempest, what a shame
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    Hi Guys,
    I've been a long time Typhoon fan, and am involved in the 'latest' Typhoon - the one with 2 engines.
    As I understand it, the issues with the original were:
    (1) Carbon Monoxide poisoning of the pilot, hence the need to wear the oxygen mask at all altitudes,
    (2) Engine unreliability due to the sleeve-valve engine design, and the inability of the manufacturers to provide cylinder sleeves to the correct standard/quality. This was resolved as a quality control issue by involving contractors who had previous experience in the field.
    (3)Tail flutter.
    <steps on soapbox> I have yet to read a thorough assessment of this issue, and I'm still not convinced it's fully understood. Early Typhoons were known to break up without provocation, and many incidents were at low level, straight and level (as Roland Beamont's experiences quoted earlier in the thread). Upwards of 30 aircrew were lost before the cause was correctly identified. Initially, reinforcing plates were added to the tail/rear fuselage join, but this did not address the problem. Early Typhoons had an elevator mass balance located within the fuselage, mounted on a beam forwards of the elevator pivot. Did I mention vibration? The 3-blade propeller was ultimately replaced by a 4-blade unit, which greatly reduced vibration levels on later aircraft. Anyway, the vibration caused an accelerated fatigue failure of the elevator mass-balance, resulting in the tails self-destructing due to flutter of a (suddenly) non-balanced control surface.
    Later Typhoons had the Tempest tailplanes with integral mass-balances, which, when coupled with the 4-blade propeller, fixed the problem.
    The final (4) Typhoon problem, which has to be regarded as more serious because it was inherent is the design, was the thickness of the wing. This caused compressibility problems at high speed, and (as already pointed out) compromised altitude performance.
    The aircraft weighed 7 tons, so any comparison should be against the P-47, and nothing else ;o)
    I read somewhere that Sydney Camm had reservations about the Hurricane wing being too thick, and he then went on to design an even thicker wing on the Tiffie.
    Wierd.
    The Tempest did address all the above issues, and was a superb aircraft.
    But it wasn't a Typhoon, though ;o)

    Cheers,

    Mr.Sleepy
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    Good stuff Po-cat, thanks
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    Soooooooooo the Tempest is like the allies version of the fockewulf?
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    Essentially yes. An all out balls to the wall low and medium altitude fighter capable of taking on anything in its path and running away with enough speed nothing can catch it apart from a Jet.
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