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[Rattler68]

Check out the sig. From a book I have on the Mossie, Tiffie, and Tempest from a pilot's perspective. I'll check through it and add some little details to the thread. BTW: the name Typhoon came about because of the previous Hawker model, the Hurricane: a typhoon is a "more violent Hurricane."

[Rattler68]

Interestingly, the first Typhoon was completed on Sept. 3, 1939! Imagine if they had time to teeth it out and rush it into production!

[Rattler68]

Some early notes on its toughness: "It certainly was a tough aircraft, and used to take a hell of a lot of punishment - the sort of punishment that would have finished off other fighters. One of our pilots pursued a 190 over France at very low level and came back with half a forest in his radiator. Another, returning from a sweep over Europe, was seen by the rest of the formation to break away and go into the sea. Back at the mess, the other pilots were having a drink when the police rang to ask what arrangements should be made to collect our man. 'His body?' the police were asked. 'No. He's OK.', they replied. It seemed that the Typhoon had been so tough that it had not broken up upon hitting the sea, but had sunk in one piece to the bottom, 50 feet down. The pilot had then released himself and floated to the surface in an air bubble, little the worse for his experience."

Sydney Hanson, retired Sergeant fitter B Flight, 609 Sqn RAF 1943

[Dr...Watson]

"Day of the Typhoon"

Im reading that right now, hope to be finished for Xmas then pass it onto my Dad when I see him.

Get it dirt cheap at play.com if anyone os intereted. Great books there if anyone else is into reading on the pan

[Opie-won]

Another issue that came up with the Typhoon was engine problems. The Napier Sabre was an extrenely complicated powerplant that did not have all of the bugs worked out of it before getting placed into production. Carbon Monoxide leakage was a serious problem with Typhoons as well and after losing several aircraft and pilots all Tiffie pilots were required to wear oxygen masks at all times. Even with the problems, the Tiffie was a superb Ground attack aircraft.

[WOLFMondo]

Most of the Sabre problems were due to fitters tinkering with things they should like the boost levels, basically the Sabres were running themselves to death just cruising on full boost. When Napier discovered the root of the engine issue was not the engine design but how the engine was maintained they locked up the parts so they couldn't be toyed with, the Sabres reliability was proven. The issue with Carbon monoxide and the koffman starter were never really solved.

[stathem]

So theoretical question;

If the Tiffie were in this sim, how do you think it would fare?

We know it was not terribly succesful in the A2A role - due to inferior high altitude performance ('cos of the thick wing) and poor rate of roll.

I think it would be a real killer in this sim thou' - especially in '43 scenarios when it was the fastest thing around at low level. Great visibilty and four hispanos. Flown in a hit and run capacity it would rack up the kills in a surprising manner.

[WOLFMondo]

Its poor altitude performance was due to the engine not being geared for high altitude, the wing was just a poor old fashion design. The FW190 had worse high alt performance was considered one of the best fighters.

I don't know how it would do online, it certainly extremely fast upto 20,000ft, probably as fast or if not faster than the P38L when very low but at most it could only carry 12 rockets but the 4 20mm would be very useful. In a group they could certainly defend themselves but if I met a 109 i'd run away rather than stand and fight.

[VW-IceFire]

In theory in the game I would be the only person to try and fly it in a fighter role. Ok...there would be one or two others (WOLFMondo I volunteer you! ).

The advantage of the Typhoon is that its fast for a good long while before some other types overtake it in the low altitude speed range. Even in 1945 it was still amongst the fastest.

In one of those classic dogfight servers the Typhoon would do far better than the P-51 would as the Typhoon is already in its element. With only a half decent turn rate it would be a favorite of the Yak-3/La-7 crowd but it would appeal to the same sort that take the FW190 out for a ride and do very well in.

The worst bit would be the roll rate. It didn't roll very fast at all...about the same as a A6M2 except with the peak roll being achieved about 100mph later (so its peak roll is more in the middle of the graph rather than right at the start as it is with the Zero). But the cannons would allow it to do fairly well no matter the target.

I think it'd be alright. As mentioned, in a group the Typhoon would do well versus fighters of similar performance. In a 1 vs 1 scenario it wouldn't do as well. In a BNZ scenario at medium and low altitudes it'd be ok.

[ImpStarDuece]

I'd fly it as a low-level interceptor, where it worked suprisingly well. It actually climbed very well at low levels, was more competitive in the zoom than a Spitfire, and went like a scallded cat at low level. Pilot accounts assert that the acceleration and retention of speed were phenomenal, and only got better later on with the switch to +9lbs boost, more capable Sabres and 4 bladed props. The Tyffie had quite a successful period in 1943 chasing down low level raiders (mostly 190s) and shooting them down after a stern chase. However, it only scored something like 254 confirmed kills in its operational career.

Turn was reportedly just superior to a 190, but you really don't want to get into a turn fight in a fighter of that size weight and horsepower. Its like turnfighting with a P-47