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    Can anyone tell me which non-Allied Axis fighters are considered a close, worthy match in combat performance to the Spitfire IX ? I often load up Bf 109G-14 to practice with. But not sure if that's a good match, as I find I'm getting better at out-maneuvering it. The Yaks, Zeros and La, on the other hands, are too superior to fight with.
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    Can anyone tell me which non-Allied Axis fighters are considered a close, worthy match in combat performance to the Spitfire IX ? I often load up Bf 109G-14 to practice with. But not sure if that's a good match, as I find I'm getting better at out-maneuvering it. The Yaks, Zeros and La, on the other hands, are too superior to fight with.
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    Good match for Spitfire Mk.9 in game would be Bf-109G6AS. G10 is somewhat superior but that is different from patch to patch but K4 is undoubtely superior. But all that heavily depends on player experience and skill.

    You will also find that Yak, LA, Zero those that you have mentioned are really inferior to both Spitfire and Bf-109.
    Once you learn how to fight with speed and obtain proper gunnery skills you will laugh at them. Exception is Yak-9U which has excellent performance and is optimized for higher altitudes too.

    Two things that will always secure you a win in any aerial battle:
    -speed
    -altitude
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    Try setting the Quick Battles altitude to an initial 6000m. At this altitude you should be able to beat any Bf 109.

    The best match for the Spitfire IX is an Fw 190 A6 set at AI Ace the Fw 190 is a very good match for the IX but uses a completely different methodology. The Bf 109 is too similar and if you are skilled with the Spitfire IX you will be all over it like a rash. Yaks, La's and lets face it any Japanese fighters dont stand a chance if you keep the fight above 3000m. Wait for the IX 25lb boost for low level furballs.
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    I'm surprise to learn the Yak, La, Zero are no match for Spit. I tried before fighting below 1000 ft and these always get to my Six, even though I usually beat the Bf 109s / FW 190s with no problem.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mynameisroland:
    Try setting the Quick Battles altitude to an initial 6000m. At this altitude you should be able to beat any Bf 109.

    The best match for the Spitfire IX is an Fw 190 A6 set at AI Ace the Fw 190 is a very good match for the IX but uses a completely different methodology. The Bf 109 is too similar and if you are skilled with the Spitfire IX you will be all over it like a rash. Yaks, La's and lets face it any Japanese fighters dont stand a chance if you keep the fight above 3000m. Wait for the IX 25lb boost for low level furballs. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    The AI sucks in FWs. At any level. And in P-47s. And in anything that can't turn.

    Going up against an AI 190, even on Ace, is like going up against a rookie AI in a good turning plane. So the 190 vs an Ace AI in the Spit would work ok.

    The Spitfire IXe is the worst IMO. Slow, and slow rolling at normal combat speeds (but then I do mostly fly the 190 lately, coming back to it from the P-47), it just feels impossible to use. I would much prefer the IXc or the VIII.

    And the only way to beat a Yak or Ki-84 is to sucker them into a turn fight. If they use their speed, you're toast. Even a Yak3 can run away from a Spitfire. I'd hate to see what a Yak9U would do. Given that they are almost as good in a turn, that added speed makes all the difference. Fly them with an eye to E management and the Spitfires are pushovers.
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    Interesting.

    In human vs. human engagements the Ki 84 is totally outcl***ed by the Spitfire IX and VIII. They can outdive and outturn you, and have about the same speed. Even starting with an altitude advantage the Ki 84 is quickly ground down by the Spit.

    The Ki84 is not the "uber" plane it used to be.

    Unless you are fighting Corsairs...

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    Oh, and turn off the bloody word filter OK?

    It is infantile.

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    dont want to ruin the Ki 84 is uber campaign , but .... as I said in another post I routinely wipe the floor with Ki 84's in my Spitfire IX e CW. This is online against some very good and some not very good pilots. The Spitfire can follow the Ki 84 in a climing turn and there is no reason for it ever to be above you as even the CW Spit has excellent altitude capabilities.
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    Ki84/Zero/Ki61 vs Spit 8/9/Corsair makes a great online battle. Map is Burma 44

    The Ki84 is faster than the Spit so can dicate the fight, but he only has to make a mistake and the Spitfire is on him. Zero can turn better than the Spitfire. I love flying both sides on those pacific maps on Ukded1 and 2.

    A good Fw190A pilot can also make life very difficult for a Spitfire 8/9. Again he can dictate the fight and keep things fast, if the SPit gets in front of his guns then he is ripped to pieces.

    I suggest anyone who thinks the Spitfire 8/9 is 'uber' takes on Mynameisroland/Boemher in his FW190A6/A8 on Ukdedictated

    Using Ki84's or Fw190A's vs Spitfires is an EXCELLENT way to learn energy fighting and just how it can win the day over the best TnB fighters every time if done correctly.

    Oh and 109G6A/S is excellent for fighting Spits, use the mk108 nose gun if you like it, I prefer the 20mm. It is faster than the SPit and can climb better so just use these strengths to dictate the battle.

    Super, come and join us online. You will leanr SO much quicker than playing off line. Just offer to be a good pilots wingman, stay above him and cover his *** when he gets into trouble and WATCH what he does. He will be greatful of the help and you will learn. Ukdedicated is a great server to learn on. Server 1 for wonderwoman, server 2 for cockpit on, which ever you prefer.
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