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    Here's the empty and full ammo/fuel weights for the F8F-1.

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    The link luft posted had it at higher than that, maybe it was for a later variant?
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    Originally posted by mynameisroland:
    The link luft posted had it at higher than that, maybe it was for a later variant?
    Yes it was for the F8F-2. This version carried 4 20mm cannons.
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    Originally posted by luftluuver:
    Yes it was for the F8F-2. This version carried 4 20mm cannons.
    Yeah, it looks like the empty weight of F8F-2 was about 500lbs more.
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    Originally posted by luftluuver:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mynameisroland:
    luftluver I've seen that link before but was never convinced by its accuracy.
    10,000ft in 94 sec works out to ~6370f/m. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    IIRC that record was set from a standing start.
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    W00t! Ripping rate of climb there Gromet.
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    Originally posted by reisen52:
    IIRC that record was set from a standing start.
    Correct, brakes off to 10,000ft.
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    I found some weights in Graham White's R-2800 book.

    F8F-1: Empty weight- 7070 lbs
    Gross weight- 9386 lbs
    Max T.O. weight-12,947 lbs

    F8F-2: Empty weight- 7690 lbs
    Gross weight- 10,426 lbs
    Max T.O. weight-13,494 lbs
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    Y0RGO find this intrest:

    Over Europe, things were somewhat different. The Luftwaffe flew fast, heavily armed aircraft that were not especially suited to low speed turning fights. The Allies had in their inventory the Spitfire, which was very adept at turning fights. The Americans had the P-47, P-38 and P-51. All of which were very fast and at least a match for the German fighters in maneuverability. Especially the P-38 which could out-turn anything the Luftwaffe had and could give the Spitfire pilot pause to consider his own mortality. With the exception of these last two, there was nothing in western Europe that could hang with the F4U-4. Even when including the Soviets, only the Yak-3 could hope to survive a one on one with the Corsair. To do so, the Yak would have to expertly flown. Furthermore, the Yak-3 was strictly a low to medium altitude fighter. Above 20,000 ft its power dropped off rapidly, as did its maneuverability. The Yak-3 in question had better be powered by the Klimov M107A engine and not the low output M105. Otherwise, the speed difference is too great to overcome.
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