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    Originally posted by Sillius_Sodus:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by M_Gunz:
    I was 'informed' yesterday that President Obama just spent 20 billion to bring 1000's of Hamas members here to the US and set them up for life on full pay. That by our resident Army Recruiter. I don't know if his source is Fox or talk radio but what one says, the attack machine echoes. Got to wonder if there's any truth to it at all?
    Sounds like that recruiter has taken part in another secret LSD experiment . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Maybe at a Tea Party as that would explain the rest of them too.
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    Originally posted by Bearcat99:
    Otherwise I would have sold my house and been getting ready for the end of the world .. now moved to October 21st by the way.
    Rapture Day is predicted to be tomorrow. Only those not Taken will have to stick it out till October, or so I read.

    The recruiter said 20 billion. My guess is that the amount has to go up the same way that McCarthy inflated the numbers of exposed communists in every speech he gave only far more inflated to match the budget and deficit number talks these days.

    He also lays the destruction of the steel and automobile industries solely upon the unions, which isn't true.

    Personally I pity anyone in any branch of our military who doesn't profess to be a Republican.
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    Originally posted by M_Gunz:
    Rapture Day is predicted to be tomorrow. Only those not Taken will have to stick it out till October, or so I read.

    The recruiter said 20 billion. My guess is that the amount has to go up the same way that McCarthy inflated the numbers of exposed communists in every speech he gave only far more inflated to match the budget and deficit number talks these days.

    He also lays the destruction of the steel and automobile industries solely upon the unions, which isn't true.

    Personally I pity anyone in any branch of our military who doesn't profess to be a Republican.
    Nope .. I have been listening to Camping for some time now .. it was May 21st.. as for the republican thing..

    Yes I can imagine that it would be kind of tough in the military.. Personally I think many members of both parties need to be brought up on charges of treason and jailed.

    I left the democratic party.. I am registered as an independent now.. but I prefer to vote the candidate ... and I certainly do not vote my values .. since I am not running.. and given the sheer weight,gravity and number of decisions that a president has to make to make a choice to cast a vote based on an one or two issues.. is foolish at least to me.

    I want a president who thinks before he speaks, speaks well when he does, tries to look at more than just one side of any issue, is not afraid to tell the truth, even when it is not gong to benefit him politically, one that will not just give lip service to looking out for but actually try to do something that will help the average American, again.. even when it is not going to benefit him/her politically.. I want a president that does not put his faith on display, but lives it out every day in the way he carries himself and treats people.. I do pay attention to what kind of parent he/she is and also what kind of person they chose as a spouse.

    I will never vote for a candidate who says inflammatory things just to score points with the unthinking.. and there are a lot of them.. If it weren't for sound bites many folks wouldn't have a clue as to what's going on, not that I am fully informed either, but I know people who will not listen to say.. AlJazeera.. just because it is AlJazeera. Back in the 80s there was a radio personality in N.Y. named Bob Grant.. and I heard so much rhetoric about this man.. so I decided to check him out myself.. and I listened to his program, and the people who would call in, for a year or two.. but in the end I was able to decide for myself what kind of man I thought he was.. needless to say I never became a fan.. but it was based on fact.

    I fear that if we as a people do not wake up.. and acknowledge what is happening to our country.. and has been underway for quite some time.. at least 3 decades if not 6 ... we will be doomed.
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    Sorry Bear but the TV generations often don't remember back as far as the last commercial and believe whatever their approved sources tell them even when they are told "it's only for entertainment purposes" which is code for "there's so much slander and libel we would get sued if we called this fact".

    Talk radio is the dissemination service for the Goebbels-method Repeated Big Lies. And Herr Goebbels was right, the lies repeated enough "become" truth. We have seated politicians repeating them as fact now with no one ready to take senators to court for what they should. I read about 1930's Germany and listen to the people in the documentaries; over and over they say the progression all seemed reasonable at the time. I look at the rhetoric and the methods especially the scapegoating and attention fixating and it's the same I've seen in action here since 1980. America is being hijacked by people who think that others haven't "earned their rights" and they dare call anyone who believes that rights are not something you earn un-American. Yes, they are destroying the country.
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    Originally posted by carts:
    As a Brit,or despite being a Brit! I used to watch "The Daily show" on a regular basis,It was shown over here the night after U.S transmission,Due to low viewing figures it got canned and we only get the Global Edition,but God help me I love this show!
    I gave up on the Daily Show when Stewart changed it into a left-wing political forum and it stopped being funny. Both happened at about the same time.
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    What just happened..
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    There -are- people besides O'Reilly who think that Palin would make a presidential candidate. From that POV.......
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    Originally posted by M_Gunz:
    Sorry Bear but the TV generations often don't remember back as far as the last commercial and believe whatever their approved sources tell them even when they are told "it's only for entertainment purposes" which is code for "there's so much slander and libel we would get sued if we called this fact".

    Talk radio is the dissemination service for the Goebbels-method Repeated Big Lies. And Herr Goebbels was right, the lies repeated enough "become" truth. We have seated politicians repeating them as fact now with no one ready to take senators to court for what they should. I read about 1930's Germany and listen to the people in the documentaries; over and over they say the progression all seemed reasonable at the time. I look at the rhetoric and the methods especially the scapegoating and attention fixating and it's the same I've seen in action here since 1980. America is being hijacked by people who think that others haven't "earned their rights" and they dare call anyone who believes that rights are not something you earn un-American. Yes, they are destroying the country.
    I don't think you give the people of this country enough credit, Gunz. Air America was a flop and MSNBC's ratings are pretty low. People are seeing through the Big Lie Machine for the most part.
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    Originally posted by Cajun76:
    I don't think you give the people of this country enough credit, Gunz. Air America was a flop and MSNBC's ratings are pretty low. People are seeing through the Big Lie Machine for the most part.
    All that proves is that most Americans are too uneducated and ignorant to deal with media that isn't spun into a narrative and spoon-fed to them.

    It's sad, really. So much potential is squandered through sheer ignorance.

    Thankfully, men like Stewart are here to help shine a light on it. Comedy is the only appropriate forum as well. It can't be saved, so we might as well laugh while the ship goes down.
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    Originally posted by GoToAway:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Cajun76:
    I don't think you give the people of this country enough credit, Gunz. Air America was a flop and MSNBC's ratings are pretty low. People are seeing through the Big Lie Machine for the most part.
    All that proves is that most Americans are too uneducated and ignorant to deal with media that isn't spun into a narrative and spoon-fed to them.

    It's sad, really. So much potential is squandered through sheer ignorance.

    Thankfully, men like Stewart are here to help shine a light on it. Comedy is the only appropriate forum as well. It can't be saved, so we might as well laugh while the ship goes down. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Well, there *are* the big liberal TV networks as well, which Gunz somehow missed when talking about the massive influence of media on the public, as if talk radio were some juggernaut with no competition. I would say the TV media has far more influence over Joe Public, but it fits an image that is pushed incessantly.

    Of course, cute catch phrases like "narrative" and "spoon-fed" are ironic when the only opposition to the faux-liberal Big Lie Machine are continuously attacked. Hasn't that been the historical first step in controlling populations through media: shut down or marginalize the opposition? Accuse them of lies and distortion so often it becomes the "truth"?

    There's no problem with the faux liberal media competing with conservative ideas, I welcome it, but I don't see the same from the other side.

    As far as Stewart, his kind of destructive cynicism is exactly the sort of thing the country doesn't need if we're ever to make progress.

    A defeatist attitude does nothing to fix problems.
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