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True. But 4 man squads for co-op is under doing it big time. The 9 we hgad before was just about right.Originally posted by TheEdgelSet:
I've always been a spokesman for few gamemodes in MP when it comes to ladders. Having lots of selections (2 vs 2, 3 vs 3, 4 vs 4 and different modes)tend to split up the community into small fractions and there is no fun playing against 15 clans where it could have been 50.
Then again it's harder to find a mode (and teamsize) that fits all.
But until there are more than 2 game types for MP, coupled with the small squad size, I doubt we will be doing much or seeing much competition.
In fact, I dare say that there may be a bunch of people waiting to see what the MP patch looks like before even buying the game.
But we'll have to see.
I for one, in light of what we know about MP as of right now, will be waiting to even pick the game up until hearing from the community about it first, so as not to end up with another 50 dollar coaster like LD was because of the MP fiasco with that.
Let's face it, most of us want it primarily for the MP aspect. And right now, that aspect is sort of lacking.
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wow....look at mr pot work his magic....isnt that comment exactly what you were accusing rugg of? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by .eNDo.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shadowxavier:
Just to inform you. TaG was never the biggest. Both ClanBase and IGS were way larger than TaG.
IGS had 300 battles+ each day at its peak.
No, in fact its not.
I got tired of Rugg claiming his league to be the cleanest, without having the facts to back it up. Also, TaG claims to be the largest, without having the facts to back it up.
If you read through my posts again, you will notice that I have never claimed any such thing.
When I come to think about it, the only thing I have told Rugg, is to stop bashing other leagues, and to go straight about who he is. It seemed like he tried to cover up his strong relationships with his league in order to be of higher value to new players. I have never done anything to hide my position or that I work for PGL. Neither have I any relations with IGS. Its been over two years since I were there last, and I quit because I didnt like the league anymore. And to top it, IGS is dead anyway, and I would not speak good of it to get some attention towards it.
That you .endo. choose to see it that way.. is your problem. And Rugg, watch it who you are calling a hypocrite. Im not even gonna start on all the words that would describe you.
And last... Bigger dosent mean best??? Well Einstein, did I ever say it did?
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wow....look at mr pot work his magic....isnt that comment exactly what you were accusing rugg of? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by shadowxavier:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by .eNDo.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shadowxavier:
Just to inform you. TaG was never the biggest. Both ClanBase and IGS were way larger than TaG.
IGS had 300 battles+ each day at its peak.
No, in fact its not.
I got tired of Rugg claiming his league to be the cleanest, without having the facts to back it up. Also, TaG claims to be the largest, without having the facts to back it up.
If you read through my posts again, you will notice that I have never claimed any such thing.
When I come to think about it, the only thing I have told Rugg, is to stop bashing other leagues, and to go straight about who he is. It seemed like he tried to cover up his strong relationships with his league in order to be of higher value to new players. I have never done anything to hide my position or that I work for PGL. Neither have I any relations with IGS. Its been over two years since I were there last, and I quit because I didnt like the league anymore. And to top it, IGS is dead anyway, and I would not speak good of it to get some attention towards it.
That you .endo. choose to see it that way.. is your problem. And Rugg, watch it who you are calling a hypocrite. Im not even gonna start on all the words that would describe you.
And last... Bigger dosent mean best??? Well Einstein, did I ever say it did? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sigh.
You can say what you want about Rugg, but accusing him of covering stuff up isn't one of them.
And so far, your lack of professionalism alone would keep me away from your new league if I was interested in it.
So why don't we cut the insults, and you take some lessons form your league-mate, BPR-Mik, and add a little class to your repertoir.
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Well, Sorry Phantom.
That was the way it looked to me, and If I came into this forums for the first time again, it would still appear so. I belive you when you say it wasent his intention.
And.. for acting pro, there is a difference in acting as a proffessional, and letting yourself be ran over. Ive stretched Ruggs accusations and name calling far enough. I have even tried to argue with logic, but hey, how does that work when a guy dosent even bother to undestand? If you count the accustaions made by us two, Im sure you will find who comes out on top..easily on top!
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Edge that’s why we have always had a ladder that allows singles 2v2 3v3 4v4 up 16 v 16 and multi unit battles in the same ladder, I felt it was easier, however 2v2 and 3v3 ladders also have their own benefits
We will be running 2 different game types Co-op and Domination, as far as I can make out Domination. When Death Match is out we will support that.
I have always wanted to try and do something for the co-op nuts (there are loads of them) but I never had the scripting skills, that has all changed since MP (A lot of you will know him as Major Player) has taken over a lot of the programming.
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Ok, now I never understood the enjoyment in playing objectivebased modes 1 vs 1 nor 2 vs 2 but you actually mean you are putting all those into one ladder so you just can choose "Hey let's play 1 vs 1" or "hey let's play 16 vs 16" and it is calculated the same in the ELO-rankings?Originally posted by TaG_Belial:
Edge that’s why we have always had a ladder that allows singles 2v2 3v3 4v4 up 16 v 16 and multi unit battles in the same ladder, I felt it was easier, however 2v2 and 3v3 ladders also have their own benefits
We will be running 2 different game types Co-op and Domination, as far as I can make out Domination. When Death Match is out we will support that.
I have always wanted to try and do something for the co-op nuts (there are loads of them) but I never had the scripting skills, that has all changed since MP (A lot of you will know him as Major Player) has taken over a lot of the programming.
It sounds as it has it's benefits but then again it sounds a little akward as it is actually two completely different games. Can you describe it a little more cause it sounds interesting.
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When are we gonna see a Ladder that once a player or players are caught cheating they are banned for life and not just for a certain period of time?
TAG was a pretty fun ladder for our clan, but like all ladders you face the bastards that cheat, and I for one would like to see a stricter police when it comes to this.
Either way, until the game comes out who knows how any thing will play. All this MP stuff is pretty shady and that alone makes me nervious.
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Im not sure I want to bother with this comment.Originally posted by TaG_Belial:
Oh and BTW shadowxavier if you want to start a flame war about Rugg or anyone else please make it in another post.
The ammount of times you have done it now just makes it look like a forum hijak.
Keep on subject please
You obviously see what you want to see.
I could have written half a page alone to proove your words wrong. Tell me if you want me too, I can even send it by PM. By all means, dont let me interrupt the TaG post.
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Prove me wrong on what???
Go re-read my post
I said we are the most active and then went on to state our battle history.
I didn’t state we are the largest, I don’t think we are
I didn’t state we had been going the longest, I know we have not.
You can no longer compare me to IGS, they are gone for the moment (Hope not for long) and Yes I know they peeked at 300, but that was before TaG was in existence, its activity was on the decline when ours peeked
In terms of day to day matches, we are and have been for a long time on a week on week, month by month basis the most active GR ladder (We did see this dip when UBI turned off chat, but it then recovered).
The simple reason for this was our GR Ladder was a pick up ladder, not like TWL who run a scheduled system (Both have its merits as different teams like different styles, I know some teams cant abide being plagued for on the spot matches)
As for posting without facts, again that’s incorrect, I make sure on a week by week basis that I am fully aware of what other GR ladders are doing in relation to activity.
You continue to post purely to gain a reaction and draw people in to some type of flame war.
Go start a new thread named “ I have nothing useful to sayâ€Â
We are all aware of it and by doing this you can keep your inane mumbling rubbish exactly where it should be kept.
Now back to the proper posts
Porn_x I couldn’t agree more, however without the ability to ban ids that are linked to a CD Key such as Steam or PB, you are left with a constant site ban from an IP basis, and this is never the best situation as it requires constant attention from admins to keep re banning cheaters. Hopefully a better solution will be available for GRAW.
SET_Sweden, we do exactly that in the current Ghost Recon Ladder, the system delivers a standard number of points, for a win and a loss. From that, additional points are awarded or deducted depending on Team Size, Team Rank, Team Win Steak, Opposing Team Size, Opposing Team Rank, Opposing Team Win Streak.
We will wait to see how the MP works out for GRAW before setting the points allocation, but there will be at least 2 ladders, 1 for Teams and 1 for Co-op,
Co-op will be a mixture, of kills, objectives and time, but again we have to wait to see what’s in game before we set it in stone.
Domination will have to have points allocation relating to what’s going on in game. But config of this wont take long as its an admin function.
