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    4.0m

    I installed it a several hours ago and did a bunch of quick mission builder flights.

    I did some dog fights with late war western front aircraft, because those are the plane that intrest me most.

    I must say I was disappointed in the enemy AI planes. You get on their six and they just keep doing barrel rolls until they stuff themselves into the ground... pretty pathetic. But I do all my real flying on-line, so no big deal.

    Then I did gunnery test placing enemy planes as friendly flights. I started with the German planes first against the P-51s / 47s/ / Spits etc. The 20mm in the 190 & 109 were very impressive. I liked that a lot because I fell the aircraft damage from enemy fire is under modeled for all aircraft in the sim.

    Then I switched to the Allied aircraft starting with the P51. I quickly learned that the torque effects are much greater with the Allied planes and it was quite difficult to find the mark even with the enemy flying flat and level. Then the real disappointment.... while unloading hundreds of rounds directly into the rears of the 190s and 109s I noticed there is almost no effect. WHAT A FREAKIN JOKE! The firepower of the .50s have been reduced, not increased. You can pump 4 seconds of perfectly placed .50s and you’re lucky if you get them smoking. COME ON! We have all seen the WWII gun footage of American aircraft dismembering 109s & 190s in a single burst... wings shedding... balls of flames everywhere.

    So I took up a Spitfire next against the German titanium airships. With 20mm Hispanos blazing into the targets... not much better than the .50s!!! Black puffs of smoke bursting off the back of the planes and they just keep flying on their merry way.

    I am generally a German pilot when I fly on-line so might be bias a little more toward the German side... even so I got to say this patch is FUBAR.

    Maybe I downloaded the wrong "unofficial" patch or something.

    Sorry for the whine, this is my first whine ever and I have been a loyal consumer since IL-2 was first released. I think it is well deserved if this is actually what we have been waiting for.

    The 109s fly loop-d-loops like they always did and they are even easier to shoot with 2x the fire power while the Allied planes are flopping all over the place like a 18 pound flounder you just brought into the boat spitting BBs into the sky.

    Pfff,
    Mad Moses
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    You are right, blue biased again like always!!! I hope Oleg will fix this things in the OFFICIAL release version of "THE PATCH"



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  3. #3
    Oleg said "Who said it is the final release?..."
    Hmm... Make your own conclusions... Maybe it is, maybe not.
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  4. #4
    Leadspitters little brother??

    just tested P-51 vs 109 and FW 4pcs if both and they both fell happily. (no tail, no wing, in fire, no engine running, pilot dead)

    so, whats the problem??

    u want huge mushroom clouds?
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  5. #5
    @Mad_Moses

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    Originally posted by Mad_Moses:
    while unloading hundreds of rounds directly into the rears of the 190s and 109s I noticed there is almost no effect. WHAT A FREAKIN JOKE! The firepower of the .50s have been reduced, not increased. You can pump 4 seconds of perfectly placed .50s and you’re lucky if you get them smoking. COME ON! We have all seen the WWII gun footage of American aircraft dismembering 109s & 190s in a single burst... wings shedding... balls of flames everywhere.
    Hi Moses...

    While what you say may be true (dunno, haven't tested yet), you can feel now how blue side felt for past 2 years. Just change .50 with Mg151, Fw190 and Bf109 with P51 and Spits in text above. And, voila, you have 2.0X, 3.0X patches...
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    One of us must be mad. I've found the 109s and 190s go down MUCH more easily now. I've been completely surprised to see 109s regularly burst into flame with just a bit of MG fire from my Spit. I haven't flown LW yet, so can't say on that side.
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  8. #8
    It`s an amazing site to behold, either some people are really dumb or they`re having a joke. How many more clever Joes are we going to see come here and whine about the unofficial Patch that`s NEVER going to be released? All you do is come here trying to look clever and just shooting yourself in the face!

    The Official Patch will be 4.01, the one you have is NOT right.

    I think if Oleg released only thin air in a Patch, people would still post to whine about AI/FMs etc even though there was nothing there!
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  9. #9
    True Seafire, so very true. This kind of crowd can not be satified, so dont kick kick yourself Oleg and team your doing a great job and i'm sure the patch will be great when it gets here!

    But you gotta love them anyways, i mean the patch was "leaked" and still they come on the forums and post about their problems with it...!?! I mean they are like children, and you keep saying to them they cant have any candy and in the end they take what they can get not careing who it comes from.
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  10. #10
    don't label something as cr@p just because you can't handle it. That is what spoiled children do; throws away a toy and mark it as unplayable just because they don't find the "on" button...

    Grow up, try it out, learn to master.... don't ever start whining the second you get a new toy, it will spoil your rep and mark you as a negative person. If you have a case, come back in a week efter you have had some TIME with it, and maybe even the official release...
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