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    I expect the servers will start off with noobs all flying lone Spits in the general direction of France, getting picked off by pro Emils hunting at altitude in pairs. In a complete reversal of history, every so often you'll hear the cry of "Achtung Hurricane!" as an experienced pilot appears in his flying wheelbarrow, looking for Emil-flying noobs who think they can out-turn him. Every so often you'll see a puff of smoke as an ultra-low flying He-111 arrives at Dover and discovers that geography can climb faster than a bomb-laden Heinkel. Experienced bomber pilots will have the edges of the map to themselves, as they try to sneak around the furball below, the only hazard being the enemy bombers coming in the other direction. Every so often, the action will die down as everyone watches the Italian contingent (led by Xilon from the banana forum) cruise sedately across the Channel. The Luftwaffe will give up trying to escort them, lacking endurance, and the RAF will return home to refuel, rearm and read the newspaper, before taking off to intercept. The heroics of the Italian Airforce will result in little more than a shower of aluminium, wood, and goats-milk cheese, though the women in the fields of Kent below will offer a friendly enough welcome to parachuting aircrew. Then the battle will commence again with plaintive cries of "It won't fly straight", "My engine is making funny noises", "Silence in Polish!" and "Which way is France?" once more fill the airwaves...
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    And so it begins....
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    Originally posted by AndyJWest:
    I expect the servers will start off with noobs all flying lone Spits in the general direction of France, getting picked off by pro Emils hunting at altitude in pairs. In a complete reversal of history, every so often you'll hear the cry of "Achtung Hurricane!" as an experienced pilot appears in his flying wheelbarrow, looking for Emil-flying noobs who think they can out-turn him. Every so often you'll see a puff of smoke as an ultra-low flying He-111 arrives at Dover and discovers that geography can climb faster than a bomb-laden Heinkel. Experienced bomber pilots will have the edges of the map to themselves, as they try to sneak around the furball below, the only hazard being the enemy bombers coming in the other direction. Every so often, the action will die down as everyone watches the Italian contingent (led by Xilon from the banana forum) cruise sedately across the Channel. The Luftwaffe will give up trying to escort them, lacking endurance, and the RAF will return home to refuel, rearm and read the newspaper, before taking off to intercept. The heroics of the Italian Airforce will result in little more than a shower of aluminium, wood, and goats-milk cheese, though the women in the fields of Kent below will offer a friendly enough welcome to parachuting aircrew. Then the battle will commence again with plaintive cries of "It won't fly straight", "My engine is making funny noises", "Silence in Polish!" and "Which way is France?" once more fill the airwaves...
    Sounds good! But you forgot something! Repeat please!
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    Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
    It's going to be a pretty close match... the slight edge of the 109 in speed.
    Those numbers from Frankyboy seem to suggest a slight speed edge in favour of the 109 from sea level to 15,000 feet. Then the edge reverses and widens between 19,000 and 23,000.

    I am dubious of the size of the apparent speed advantage of the Spit at ~20 k. I think that the 109's figures at 1 km intervals conceal a maximum between 5,000 m and 6,000 m. I don't think it would've had a vertical speed curve over a 1 km interval.

    But anyway, a slight advantage to the Spits around 20 k feet.

    Up to the pilots...then which means constant whining no doubt
    Not a shadow of a doubt!

    I'll fly a Hurricane
    Good man!
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    Originally posted by AndyJWest:
    I expect the servers will start off with noobs all flying lone Spits in the general direction of France, getting picked off by pro Emils hunting at altitude in pairs. In a complete reversal of history, every so often you'll hear the cry of "Achtung Hurricane!" as an experienced pilot appears in his flying wheelbarrow, looking for Emil-flying noobs who think they can out-turn him. Every so often you'll see a puff of smoke as an ultra-low flying He-111 arrives at Dover and discovers that geography can climb faster than a bomb-laden Heinkel. Experienced bomber pilots will have the edges of the map to themselves, as they try to sneak around the furball below, the only hazard being the enemy bombers coming in the other direction. Every so often, the action will die down as everyone watches the Italian contingent (led by Xilon from the banana forum) cruise sedately across the Channel. The Luftwaffe will give up trying to escort them, lacking endurance, and the RAF will return home to refuel, rearm and read the newspaper, before taking off to intercept. The heroics of the Italian Airforce will result in little more than a shower of aluminium, wood, and goats-milk cheese, though the women in the fields of Kent below will offer a friendly enough welcome to parachuting aircrew. Then the battle will commence again with plaintive cries of "It won't fly straight", "My engine is making funny noises", "Silence in Polish!" and "Which way is France?" once more fill the airwaves...
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    Sums it up perfectly Andy!

    I also expect all Allied pilots to fly in RAF approved close VIC formation,and not that funny 'finger four' that the Germans favour.
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    And expect "realistic results or something's wrong with the sim". Yep so, look right behind the keyboard.
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    Its much clser than between a 109F4 and a Spitfire Vb that we had in the game currently (stock) and that was already a fantastic matchup, even though the Spitfire was a underdog when both are flown by veterans. The 109F4 is incredible in late 1941-42.

    I think Spit 1 vs 109E is going to be a great matchup. Where the 109 is going to gain most ground is in terms of the cannons vs the Spitfires 8x.303 possibly, unless the damage model is altered from IL2. Possibly with a more complicated DM, the MG's will do a bit better.

    I dont think the 109D, 109E-1 or E2 are appearing are they? I guess this is more 1939 than 1940, as is the Spitfire with the two bladed prop.
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    the 8x.303cal will most propably very effective agaisnt the Bf109 and 110. Because so far you couldnt see ANY rearcockpit armour in thier cockpits.
    and also agaisnt the engine and the coolingsystem ,the new DM will give the .303 a good 'chance'

    on oposite the firing time with the MG-FF (hopefully /M !!) is short and not easy to hit a hard manouvering target........
    Perhaps an 109E-1 would work more easily


    about performance, whn Maddox will model the 100octon fuel 12lb/sq.in. boost Merlins, than the germans will have a very hard time below ~15000ft
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    I think 100 octane was used by all of the frontline squadrons from very early in the battle, so I think all of the Spits and Hurris should have it.

    I have seen 100 octane written on the Spits engine from the screenshots of SOW BOB.

    The lower octane fuel was still in use through the battle, but not by the frontline southern squadrons IIRC. They obviously had access to the best equipment.
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