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    I want everyone to know that I paid for (twice), and downloaded the Pe2 add-on just like anyone else. Including the BoontyBox software.

    I understand the reservations people have about the BoontyBox software, and I won't say I disagree. Please understand that I'm not an advocate for BoontyBox, or even UBI, really, but I do care very much about the future of the IL2 series into BoB.

    I have seen, and been offered so called 'clean' versions of the Pe2 add-on through FTP (While i was under alias of course). They supposedly don't have the BoontyBox software. These are home-developed, not official versions of the game! And I don't have to tell you how that hurts this small community. I know I can't stop this version of the game from spreading, but please... If you obtain a copy of Pe2, pay for it. That's all I ask. If you care about this community and the games developers, you will buy a license. If you enjoy this software w/o paying for it, your a thief. It`s that simple.

    You can buy a license from here If you buy a license and then choose not to download the game from UBI, that's your business. This community is way to small to allow dishonesty.
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    Sell me a "Official" Clean version and I will. I know the squad I fly with not going to screw around with PE-2 until all the bugs are worked out with or without BB.
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    sure Ivan. I'll pay. But to Oleg. Not to UBI. This was so out of line that until UBI do not change it's policy I wil not BUY a single game they will have their fingerprints on it.
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    Just DL and installed PE2 and the friggin boonty. Spend 4 hours trying to get everything work.Finally with help (Luthiers thread) got game to work. I almost paid also twice. Is it too simple just to get serial and request code for DL?
    My opinion is that Boontybox only increases piracy!!
    Well! Now that said, im a happy because i have my Peshka
    edit: BoontyBox is not that dangerous, coz u can delete it. But is just bad for Oleg. I hope they can make good old CD version
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    If you want to protest UBI by not buying the game, fine. That's integrity.

    If you want to protest UBI by not buying the game, but still want to play the game, that's thievery and hypocrisy.

    The thieves will steal anyway, but if you want to use BoontyBox as an excuse, just know your no better.
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    Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
    I want everyone to know that I paid for (twice), and downloaded the Pe2 add-on just like anyone else. Including the BoontyBox software.

    I understand the reservations people have about the BoontyBox software, and I won't say I disagree. Please understand that I'm not an advocate for BoontyBox, or even UBI, really, but I do care very much about the future of the IL2 series into BoB.

    I have seen, and been offered so called 'clean' versions of the Pe2 add-on through FTP (While i was under alias of course). They supposedly don't have the BoontyBox software. These are home-developed, not official versions of the game! And I don't have to tell you how that hurts this small community. I know I can't stop this version of the game from spreading, but please... If you obtain a copy of Pe2, pay for it. That's all I ask. If you care about this community and the games developers, you will buy a license. If you enjoy this software w/o paying for it, your a thief. It`s that simple.

    You can buy a license from here If you buy a license and then choose not to download the game from UBI, that's your business. This community is way to small to allow dishonesty.
    Amen to that.

    I could care less about PE2 (although it is a neat plane) but I am waiting for Manchuria. To get Manchuria, not only do I need this expansion but I'm assuming I need it to be somewhat successful (sales wise).

    Just pay your money and follow these instructions. I have a paid for, boonty-less install (best of both worlds).

    Here's a thread that shows how to remove boonty after you purchase PE2 and also shows how to quickly switch between 404 and 405 without having 2 copies on your HD. There are also luthier's instructions on adding the 2 pe2 single player mission files which were mislabeled inthe boonty install (at least when I installed it they were mislabeled).

    http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb....topic;f=144;t=004614

    Pay your money to Ubi so Oleg will at least get a little return on all he has FREELY given us (mosquito,tempest,DO335,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc)
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    Originally posted by georgeo76:
    If you want to protest UBI by not buying the game, fine. That's integrity.

    If you want to protest UBI by not buying the game, but still want to play the game, that's thievery and hypocrisy.
    I'm going to continue to play the game. 4.04m

    I would like to believe that the majority of the "disillusionsed" are not going to rush out and steal a copy so they can fly the Russian bomber.

    I'll gladly pay my money to Oleg and then some. Money is not the issue. It's like ordering a Turkey sandwich and getting penut butter added. It's not that I can't scrap it off, but I didn't want it in the first place.
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    I'm staying with 4.04. I'm not wearing a tinfoil hat or anything like that, but UBI has performed these marketing blunders over and over again. From what I understand I am cut out of the deal anyway with win98. And NOBODY is going get near my boonty box with odd installer software.
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    I sort of agree with the spirit of what you post, Ivan....

    but, even if I were to take the route of "buying a license [on principle of supporting the developer], not downloading it, and then getting some Boonty-hacked version of it", at some point I would still look like a thief, especially if some later download software has some whatever-ware that's designed to detect install irregularities.

    The "right thing to do" is for Ubi to extract BoontyBox from the download/install process, issue the community an APOLOGY for their affrontery, take a "hands off" stance toward any information on my hard drive and let me just buy a clean install of the mod. Period. Point blank. End of story. Stop the corporate/marketing bullsh*t and this whole thing blows over.

    I sure wish you'd stop trying to deflect blame and responsbility on this issue to the users. We didn't start this. And as far as responsibility goes, we ARE being responsible for protecting our interests; that's why we're exposing this boondoggle for what it is.

    Speaking of "starting things", how's it coming on my avatar editing, which at least one member of your "oh so righteous" moderator crew have fiddled with a number of times, including yesterday? See the "Moooo" thingee over in the left hand column?

    I use your own words, and aim them back at YOU: DO THE RIGHT THING, Ivan.
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    You know, if you give him 8 grams, no one will mind Ivan.
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