1. #1
    I have just suddenly rediscovered the joys of offline campaigns, especially in my 109f4 . Unfortunatley i have never really liked the default skin for the f4, so i always changed my own plane skin. The thing is, i always think it looks kinda odd that everyone else has got a diff skin to me lined up on the runway (maybe it gives an extra pointer to the enemy ai to chase me!)

    Anyway, i thought to myself, hmm i'll just rename the skin i want them to use as the default skin. Go into folder, no default skin???

    anyone got any ideas??

    Ps i've just started using ill2 mat manager, and i have to say it is awesome, love the markings now.
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  2. #2
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    Yes, you can change the AI's skin. You have to open the mission in the FMB.
    With the desired mission open, you click on the flight you want to change the skins for. If you hold the cursor over one of the waypoints, a box should show up with the flight number and aircraft type.
    Select "view" and then "object" from the directory at the top of the screen.
    You should have a window appear with tabs along the top.
    Select "plane1" and click on the tab.
    there are a few drop down boxes with skill, skin, pilot, etc.
    click on the arrow next to the skin box and it will show you all the skins you have for that particular AC in the paintschemes/skins/?? folder. Select the one you want and it should appear on the aircraft viewer at the bottom of the window. The front page will still have the default skin, but don't worry about that.

    Repeat process for the rest of the flight ad infinitum. Very user friendly, right?
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    Repeat process for the rest of the flight ad infinitum. Very user friendly, right?
    Thanks for the reply Bird brain, you're not wrong about the user frendlieness. I've just done it for my next mission, but its kind off given away what i will be flying against

    Dont think i'll be bothering to do it for the rest of the campaign...

    Shame, but not the end of the world!!

    cheers fruitbat

    edit: just curious, Bird brain, have you any idea where the default skins are, presumably they must be somewhere?
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  4. #4
    There is way easier thing you can do.. just open DGen folder and select appropriate map file and add skin by typing exact skin name (that you already have in appropriate skin folder) next to desired plane.

    For instance here's Kursk.db
    __________________________________________________ ______
    Kursk
    [Towns]
    10 Dmitrovsk_Orlovskiy
    5 Orel
    5 Mokhovoye
    5 Nikolskoe
    5 Zmiyevka
    5 Tagino
    5 Glazunovka
    5 Maloarkhangelsk
    5 Ponyri
    5 Kamenka
    5 Turovka
    10 Dmitriev_Lgovskiy
    5 Fatezh
    5 Shchigry
    10 Kursk
    5 Livny
    [Schedule]
    30704 30
    30705 2
    30706 2
    30707 2
    30708 2
    30709 1
    30710 1
    30711 0
    30712 0
    30713 0
    30714 0
    30715 0
    30716 0
    30717 0
    30718 0
    30719 0
    30720 -1
    30721 -1
    30722 -1
    30723 -1
    30724 -2
    30725 -2
    30726 -2
    30727 -2
    30728 -2
    30729 -2
    30730 -2
    30731 -2
    30801 -2
    30802 -2
    30803 -2
    30804 -2
    30805 -2
    [OOB]
    =I_StGOne=II_StGOne==I_StG77a=II_StG77a=III_StG77a =Stab_StG77a=StG163=I_JG3=II_JG3=III_JG3==I_JG5
    _1=III_JG5_1=Stab_JG51=I_JG5_2=II_JG5_2=III_JG5_2= Stab_JG52=4_JG52=I_JG54=I_LG2=I_KG1=II_KG1=III_
    KG1=Stab_KG1=I_KG3=II_KG3=III_KG3=Stab_KG3=I_StG2= II_StG2=III_StG2=IV_StG2=Stab_StG2=4_StG2=StG16
    3=3IAK=3GvIAP=5GvIAP=6GvIAP=9GvIAP=11GvIAP=12GvIAP =16GvIAP=40GvIAP=88GvIAP=116IAP=120IAP=131IAP=1
    48IAP=160IAP=161IAP=163IAP=165IAP=176IAP=178IAP=18 3IAP=237IAP=239IAP=254IAP=270IAP=272IAP=279IAP=
    296IAP=511IAP=530IAP=728IAP=7GvShAP=8GvShAP=94GvSh AP=166GvShAP=61ShAP=175ShAP=190ShAP=210ShAP=218
    ShAP=237ShAP=430ShAP=431ShAP=614ShAP=617ShAP=672Sh AP=688ShAP=810ShAP=874ShAP=995ShAP=34BAP=
    [Planes]
    10 I_16TYPE24
    8 HurricaneMkIIbMod
    20 IL_2MLate
    29 IL_2Type3
    10 IL_2Type3M
    15 IL_4_IL4
    18 LAGG_3SERIES66
    6 LAGG_3IT
    21 LA_5 <span class="ev_code_RED">la5skin.bmp</span>
    14 LA_5F
    2 LA_5FN
    20 PE_2SERIES84
    6 PE_2SERIES110
    4 PE_3SERIES1
    4 PE_3BIS
    12 U_2VS
    8 P_39N
    5 P_40M
    4 P_40EM105
    8 YAK_1
    22 YAK_1B
    31 YAK_7B
    12 YAK_9
    7 YAK_9D
    4 YAK_9T
    24 BF_110C4B
    8 BF_110G2
    32 HE_111H6
    12 JU_52_3MG4E
    37 JU_88A4
    48 JU_87D5
    126 FI_156
    23 FW_189A2
    62 FW_190A4
    42 FW_190A5
    [Aces]
    BF_109G6HARTMANN BF_109G6 III_JG5_2 Hartmann
    BF_109G6 BF_109G6 III_JG5_2 Rall
    BF_109G6 BF_109G6 III_JG5_2 Krupinski
    BF_109G6 BF_109G6 Stab_JG52 Hrabak
    FW_190A5 FW_190A5 III_JG5_1 Brendel
    FW_190A5 FW_190A5 III_JG5_1 Straßl
    FW_190A5 FW_190A5 III_JG5_1 Tanzer
    FW_190A5 FW_190A5 Stab_JG51 Mader
    skin:Anton_Mader.bmp
    FW_190A5 FW_190A5 I_JG5_1 Leie
    skin:$Erich_Leie.bmp
    FW_190A4 FW_190A4 I_JG5_1 Jennewein
    skin:$Joseph_Jennewein.bmp
    YAK_1B YAK_1B 6GvIAP Yeryomin
    skin:$yeremine.bmp
    YAK_1B YAK_1B 6GvIAP Reshetov
    skin:$rechetov.bmp
    P_39N P_39N 16GvIAP Gulayev
    LA_5FN LA_5FN 120IAP Yevstigneyev
    YAK_9D YAK_9D 120IAP Koldunov
    LA_5FN LA_5FN 5GvIAP Orekhov
    YAK_9 YAK_9 239IAP Kleshchev
    [Operations] <<ops43-N.dat ops43-E.dat ops43-H.dat
    __________________________________________________ ______

    If you have a skin for LA-5 named la5skin.bmp you should enter that next to the LA-5 entry in Kursk.DB. Take a look at the red text.

    Take a look on how they have done it with AI planes at bottom of the file, that should give you a clue.

    For sure you can go mad if you change skin after every mission you played in .mis files, that is not reccomended.

    After you made that correction, on that map default skinned LA-5 will always appear in la5skin.bmp. About default skins, they are encoded somewhere.(you can not preview other than in game)

    Let me know if you have succeded, because I have done that year ago or so (I think I write all correctly, I may be wrong tho) and it worked nicely.
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  5. #5
    Hi atomic marten, i've just been trying what u said, but hit a small problem, at the moment i am flying a 109f4 in the crimea '41. I dont know if it is because i changed the default plane to an f4 for the campaign, but in the plane list there doesn't seem to be any f4's apart from the aces at the bottom

    details for crimea41.db

    Crimea
    [Towns]
    5 Ogorodnoye
    5 Razdolnoe
    5 Grishino
    5 Dzhankoy
    5 Yevpatoriya
    5 Saki
    5 Belogorsk
    5 Simferopol
    5 Bakhchisaray
    5 Feodosiya
    5 Alushta
    5 Yalta
    5 Alupka
    5 Vilino
    5 Lenino
    5 Kerch
    10 Balaklava
    20 Sevastopol
    10 Taman
    [Schedule]
    11028 5
    11029 5
    11030 10
    11031 15
    11101 5
    11102 3
    11103 2
    11104 5
    11105 5
    11106 0
    11107 0
    11108 0
    11109 5
    11110 5
    11111 3
    11112 2
    11113 2
    11114 3
    11115 0
    11116 5
    11117 0
    11118 0
    [OOB]
    =Eskadrila54=I_StG77a=II_StG77a=III_StG77a=Stab_St G77a=II_JG5_2=III_JG5_2=Stab_JG52=4_
    JG52=II_JG77=III_JG77=Stab_JG77=I_LG2=I_KG1=II_KG1 =III_KG1=Stab_KG1=I_KG26=I_KG3_0=II_
    KG3_0=III_KG3_0=Stab_KG3_0=StG163=3IAK=3GvIAP=5GvI AP=6GvIAP=9GvIAP=11GvIAP=12GvIAP=
    16GvIAP=40GvIAP=88GvIAP=116IAP=120IAP=131IAP=148IA P=160IAP=161IAP=163IAP=165IAP=176IAP=
    178IAP=183IAP=237IAP=239IAP=254IAP=270IAP=272IAP=2 79IAP=296IAP=511IAP=530IAP=728IAP=
    7GvShAP=8GvShAP=94GvShAP=166GvShAP=61ShAP=175ShAP= 190ShAP=210ShAP=218ShAP=237ShAP=430ShAP
    =431ShAP=614ShAP=617ShAP=672ShAP=688ShAP=810ShAP=8 74ShAP=995ShAP=34BAP=
    [Planes]
    25 I_153_M62
    39 I_153P
    68 I_16TYPE18
    35 I_16TYPE24
    12 IL_4_DB3M
    2 IL_4_DB3T
    18 LAGG_3SERIES4
    2 LI_2
    6 MIG_3EARLY
    16 PE_2SERIES1
    7 U_2VS
    6 R_10
    12 SB_2M100A
    20 SB_2M103
    6 TB_3_4M_17
    11 YAK_1
    14 P_11C
    22 IAR_80
    26 BF_109E4
    24 BF_109E4B
    48 BF_109E7
    18 BF_109E7NZ
    16 BF_110C4
    16 BF_110C4B
    44 HE_111H2
    1 JU_52_3MG4E
    8 FW_189A2
    4 FI_156
    8 JU_88A4
    26 JU_87B2
    [Aces]
    BF_109F4 BF_109F4 II_JG77 Setz
    BF_109F4 BF_109F4 II_JG77 Hackl
    BF_109F4 BF_109F4 II_JG77 Mader
    BF_109F4 BF_109F4 4_JG52 Steinhoff
    BF_109E7 BF_109E7 III_JG5_2 Graf
    skin:Hermann_Graf.bmp
    BF_109F4 BF_109F4 III_JG5_2 Grislawski
    BF_109F4 BF_109F4 III_JG5_2 Steinbatz
    BF_109E7 BF_109E7 III_JG77 Omert
    YAK_1 YAK_1 239IAP Fedoseyev
    YAK_1 YAK_1 239IAP Khalutin
    YAK_1 YAK_1 239IAP Shevchuk
    YAK_1 YAK_1 239IAP D. Glinka
    YAK_1 YAK_1 6GvIAP Avdeyev
    LAGG_3SERIES4 LAGG_3SERIES4 239IAP Kozachenko
    [Operations] <<ops41-N.dat ops41-E.dat ops41-H.dat

    any ideas??

    Also, where you have shown where t5o enter the skin, i asume u have to enter the path as well, or does it automatically pick up the directory??

    thanks for your help

    fruitbat
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  6. #6
    Mate sorry for delayed answer I bet you had figured it by now.

    Anyway, you should have Bf-109F-4 on 'ordinary' list (non aces) to make it work.
    For instance you can change 25 I_153_M62 skin because it is on that list.

    Second, you do not have to specify directory, you must put skin in proper directory instead.(if you have Bf-109E-4 skin for example, be sure to put it in paint schemes/skins/Bf-109E-4 folder). If the skin name is Bf109Galland.bmp, then you must type exactly that in a way shown above.

    I will test it and if anything is wrong here I will try to figure it out..
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  7. #7
    REAL men fly the f-2



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  8. #8
    @thefruitbat here is your answer:

    Crimea41.DB file

    ------------------------------------------------

    Crimea
    [Towns]
    5 Ogorodnoye
    5 Razdolnoe
    5 Grishino
    5 Dzhankoy
    5 Yevpatoriya
    5 Saki
    5 Belogorsk
    5 Simferopol
    5 Bakhchisaray
    5 Feodosiya
    5 Alushta
    5 Yalta
    5 Alupka
    5 Vilino
    5 Lenino
    5 Kerch
    10 Balaklava
    20 Sevastopol
    10 Taman
    [Schedule]
    11028 5
    11029 5
    11030 10
    11031 15
    11101 5
    11102 3
    11103 2
    11104 5
    11105 5
    11106 0
    11107 0
    11108 0
    11109 5
    11110 5
    11111 3
    11112 2
    11113 2
    11114 3
    11115 0
    11116 5
    11117 0
    11118 0
    [OOB]
    =Eskadrila54=I_StG77a=II_StG77a=III_StG77a=Stab_St G77a=II_JG5_2=III_JG5_2=Stab_JG52=4_JG52=I

    I_JG77=III_JG77=Stab_JG77=I_LG2=I_KG1=II_KG1=III_K G1=Stab_KG1=I_KG26=I_KG3_0=II_KG3_0=III_KG

    3_0=Stab_KG3_0=StG163=3IAK=3GvIAP=5GvIAP=6GvIAP=9G vIAP=11GvIAP=12GvIAP=16GvIAP=40GvIAP=88GvI

    AP=116IAP=120IAP=131IAP=148IAP=160IAP=161IAP=163IA P=165IAP=176IAP=178IAP=183IAP=237IAP=239IA

    P=254IAP=270IAP=272IAP=279IAP=296IAP=511IAP=530IAP =728IAP=7GvShAP=8GvShAP=94GvShAP=166GvShAP

    =61ShAP=175ShAP=190ShAP=210ShAP=218ShAP=237ShAP=43 0ShAP=431ShAP=614ShAP=617ShAP=672ShAP=688S

    hAP=810ShAP=874ShAP=995ShAP=34BAP=
    [Planes]
    25 I_153_M62
    39 I_153P
    68 I_16TYPE18
    35 I_16TYPE24
    12 IL_4_DB3M
    2 IL_4_DB3T
    18 LAGG_3SERIES4
    2 LI_2
    6 MIG_3EARLY
    16 PE_2SERIES1
    7 U_2VS
    6 R_10
    12 SB_2M100A
    20 SB_2M103
    6 TB_3_4M_17
    11 YAK_1
    14 P_11C
    22 IAR_80
    26 BF_109E4 Void.bmp
    24 BF_109E4B
    48 BF_109E7
    18 BF_109E7NZ
    <span class="ev_code_RED">20 BF_109F4 Hannes_Trautloft.bmp</span>
    16 BF_110C4
    16 BF_110C4B
    44 HE_111H2
    1 JU_52_3MG4E
    8 FW_189A2
    4 FI_156
    8 JU_88A4
    26 JU_87B2
    [Aces]
    BF_109F4 BF_109F4 II_JG77 Setz
    BF_109F4 BF_109F4 II_JG77 Hackl
    BF_109F4 BF_109F4 II_JG77 Mader
    BF_109F4 BF_109F4 4_JG52 Steinhoff
    BF_109E7 BF_109E7 III_JG5_2 Graf
    skin:Hermann_Graf.bmp
    BF_109F4 BF_109F4 III_JG5_2 Grislawski
    BF_109F4 BF_109F4 III_JG5_2 Steinbatz
    BF_109E7 BF_109E7 III_JG77 Omert
    YAK_1 YAK_1 239IAP Fedoseyev
    YAK_1 YAK_1 239IAP Khalutin
    YAK_1 YAK_1 239IAP Shevchuk
    YAK_1 YAK_1 239IAP D. Glinka
    YAK_1 YAK_1 6GvIAP Avdeyev
    LAGG_3SERIES4 LAGG_3SERIES4 239IAP Kozachenko
    [Operations] <<ops41-N.dat ops41-E.dat ops41-H.dat

    ------------------------------------------------

    Note the red line. Just copy/paste that (number 20 is randomly selected) and all your AI squadron mates will be dressed in Trautloft's skin.

    Happy hunting
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  9. #9
    cheers atomic_marten,

    just got back and tried what u said, and its working perfectly. Thanks for your time and effort in helping me mate. Just curious. the number in front, what does it mean? i'm guessing how many of that plane type in the campaign.

    once again, thanks

    fruitbat.
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  10. #10
    My guess is the number of available planes before the squadron must ask for resuply. Sometimes your squadron does not have enough fighters to put 8 fighters airborne.. (you see message after your mission -- your squadron has only 7 planes left).

    I think that number is reffered to that, I'm not sure tho.

    Also I think it can be easily checked out. For instance, setup new campaign with 'easy' settings (you start mission in air) lower the number of BF_109E4 to, I don't know, let say 10. As soon as mission starts, shot down few of your squad mates. If de-briefing screen says "Your sq. has 10-x planes left" (x is how many you shot down, shot down 3 or more just to be sure) than that's it..
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