1. #51
    Originally posted by Poacher886a:
    I picked up and played IL2 apon release about 8yrs ago. It was a seriously impressive sim for the time, the graphics were amazing, the feel excellent,loads of flyable aircraft, the Sim was well a Sim not an arcade game, all told, it did blow me away except it lacked in some vital area's.....
    Well yeah, I`d back you up with that. IL2 back in the 2003 blew me away with its graphics. Needless to say I`d put on the max settings about 2 years later, though I knew I had that possibility back when I first played it. Now looking at the screens of the new game, I can`t really say the same thing. IL2 : CoD seems to have average graphics. I`m just saying.


    It seemed to be quite literly a collection of missions with no purpose than to put you against the enemy for a dog fight. Many will say that is all they want, but many as myself would like to feel the immersion of a "real pilot" on camapign.
    You had a different experience, believe me. IL2 was the 1st serious WWII sim I`ve ever played and I must say I found available campaigns quite good. There were nice turning points like sudden air support for the enemy coming into the battle for example. Some missions, thanks to the static nature of the campaign, were massive battles that left me breathless.
    To be honest though the moment the virtual online wars came in, I forgot offline gaming altoghether. And now all I care for in this department is will those wars be available in the future.

    So like many on these forums, i've been patiently waiting for what, 6yrs for the coming of the much promised CoD as its now called and from what i've read and seen, im feeling a bit let down already.
    It would be too simple I think. Maddox Games is not a massive GTA team, though Cliffs of Dover is already a massive game to be followed by more massive expansions. Taking those points into account, I can`t say that the time that went on starting from 2006 (that is the year Storm of War was mentioned first I think) had made me raising the bar year by year. The main thing I require from Oleg now is making a solid game, with a solid online code. The additional theatres, patches, updates and 3rd party enhancements will come. I know that. Hell, I`m so confident with the game that I`ll buy it regardless if it`s going to be broken at first. The will to support Oleg and the genre is too strong with this one.

    Firstly the graphics...i don't understand what alot of you are seeing, im viewing on a 24" IPS monitor through a GTX570 and it looks like an update of IL2 from 8yrs ago!!!, i mean seriously the difference from Pacific fighters to IL2 is much like the difference from CoD to Pacific fighters! an improvement.
    To be honest, I don`t really care if it`s just an upgrade. Graphics really don`t mean the most in this game. The only thing I`ll be testing extensively is the distance of visibility and how planes are visible against the terrain.

    Now consider the difference from Silent hunter 1 to silent hunter 5, or the original Shogun TW to the forth coming Shogun TW, to say night and day would be an understatement, more like the difference from the forth coming Shogun TW to Pac-Man!...light years away.
    Sorry bro, not really relevant to the case of IL2 games.

    Plenty will say the graphics are not important, but i say this is non-sense, in a simulator, EVERYTHING is important, because you are trying to create a convincing simualtion of a REAL situation...the better the graphics the more convincing the sim.
    Visibility of planes at a certain distance - that was an issue with IL2. A BIG issue. I do want it gone. That`s about it when it comes to my requirements for the graphics.

    Now the real stuff I`m hoping for - more complicated damage model, more complicated ballistics, more complicated engine management, better modelling of ground battles (ever heard of a T34-75 killing a King Tiger?) and plane functionality. Oleg promised to meet those demands and has been talking mainly about this for the whole time this game is in the works.

    Next the lack of aircraft....there realy is a shortage of flyable aircraft for a game that has been in development for 6yrs, sure there will probably be more to come, but when? or will they just skip to the next instalment elsewhere?, one of the great things about the IL2 series was there was never a lack of aircraft, including the much liked (by me) naff aircraft, that you really had to work for a kill.
    Sounds as if you entered the game after the Forgotten Battles was released. Back in the early days there weren`t that many planes either. Although I didn`t complain because the time it took to make the skills SIMILAR to pre-mastering a certain one type of aircraft in this game, in my case was so long, that by the time I began dominating online, the Ace Expansion Pack was already in the sales. Actually, I did complain, but not about lack of planes, but about postponing some of the nicest 109 types of all. Oleg Maddox has made so much credit in my book, that I`m sure in a few years we`ll have something similar to the current 1946 game. As a customer, I have yet to see a more ambitious set of guys making a video game than the MG guys. A support worth every penny.

    Even ignoring my firt two disapointments, which can be improved / modded with time, the really big disapointment for me is after all this time, it seems the main part where IL2 always lacked has had no time spent on improving it....the campaign and 'Out of Aircraft' experience.
    You got me here. I just recalled that I`ve been bashing the Yanks ever since the first word of releasing the P51 Mustang popped out in the open. For not letting the Eastern Front being completed. Months of complaining, right here on the forums. About two years later we came back to the theatre, and to my knowledge it is the most complete in the game.


    I dont buy into those who say a Dynamic campign makes for boring missions....infact quite the opposite, it makes for more realistic missions if the parameters for both sides are accurate. If playing as the Germans, you will be heading out to either bomb or escort the bombers, you will thus already be doing as was done. The RAF will know your are coming and will send an intercept thus you will more than likely see action. If you successfully bomb either airfields or Radar stations, this should effect the enemy's ability to intercept you, for some time and be noticeable.

    Boring...impossible.
    AFAIK you have the complete history on how the community has chosen the type of campaign for SoW in the Oleg`s Room. Every point for and against. You say nothing that hasn`t been said there before.

    And so to my final issue. With 25 days to go and no sign of a real "in my hands" game to buy from any of the popular stores in GB! Play.com UK has had this game in its pre-order charts for about 6yrs!! and its been in the top 30 most pre-ordered chart for as long as i can remember...now were on the verge of its release and there is no sign of its existance unless you download it, something i hate to do as i like a perminent real game not a cyber one.
    It is perfectly available where I live (Poland).Along with the Collectors` Edition too.



    Am i going to buy the game...of course i will (when its for sell), there is unfortunately no competitors to the IL2 series, long gone are the day's when Sim's (especially flight Sims) were the FPS games of there time.. a new'er and better one each month come the early 90's....but i still feel a bit disapointed with what we know about the game given i've never waited so long for a game to arrive in all my 26yrs of playing them.
    Funny. I feel nothing like you. I followed the development right from 2006 to late 2008 when I was thrown out by the mod community out of the 1946 game altoghether. I didn`t have time to follow it later on, though the info I was able to gather back then is telling me that IL2 : CoD will be huge.
    Hell, even if it doesn`t stand up to the requirements, I will keep on waiting until it does. After all, it is not only the game. I`ve been in a virtual squad once. We`ve had some virtual Hyperlobby nights when we actually never flew, though we`d have a nice men talk. Drinking beer and telling jokes through the radio in TS. With guys from most of the Europe and United States. Needless to say I hope I can meet my long gone squad buddies once again to strike some tea drinkin butt this time. "The guys" thing is actually close to 50% of this game`s satisfaction IMO.
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  2. #52
    Originally posted by carguy_:

    ... Now looking at the screens of the new game, I can`t really say the same thing. IL2 : CoD seems to have average graphics. I`m just saying.

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    Check out the new HD video posted by Oleg today and say that again !
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