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    Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
    If you had looked just a little further into the IL2 community, you would have seen that there has been an EXCELLENT, FREE dynamic campaign generator being worked on for years now, and its still being improved.

    http://www.lowengrin.com/news.php
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    Also to mention the improvements in DF just in IL2:1946 alone have approached campaign level while if I read correctly there are more and better in CoD. Whatever can be run online can be run as a one-PC LAN.

    Maddox Games has given us many tools to use and customize the game with. There's a -lot- of free improvements out, just look.
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    So typical people just don´t read any more, just start the thousandth thread on their so great disappointment that they don´t have the game already and that now. If you are so impatient,
    don´t buy it, get yourself a arcade shooter as this sim is then nothing for you.
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    I'm a bit sick of the graphics whines...we were all fine with Il-2 until the CoD screenshots started turning up, and all of a sudden we're expecting a sim to have graphics on par with an A++ FPS in an era of gaming where the sim market represents a much smaller segment of the overall gaming market compared to 2001 when Il-2 came out.

    I'm going to become a Wimpy Whiner, though, by the looks of it.
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    Originally posted by TheGrunch:
    I'm a bit sick of the graphics whines...we were all fine with Il-2 until the CoD screenshots started turning up, and all of a sudden we're expecting a sim to have graphics on par with an A++ FPS in an era of gaming where the sim market represents a much smaller segment of the overall gaming market compared to 2001 when Il-2 came out.

    I'm going to become a Wimpy Whiner, though, by the looks of it.
    I'd like to see those FPS games do realistic scenery by the thousands of square kilometers and make it look good from 0 to 30,000 feet. Plus they don't really care about realism... they go for dramatic appeal. Which is ok... that's the whole idea there
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    Exactly...that's what people don't seem able to grasp.
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    Poacher886a im with you on this one , considering what we were expecting and what we are now getting , its just not up to the mark , to much capitulation by fanboys and not enough NO its not acceptable would have been a better idea.
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    Pah, I'd rather have a new game with an interesting scenario, most importantly a better FM/DM and slightly crappy graphics than a game that never comes out with fancy looking screenshots released every few months. If you guys can't see the value of actual functional improvements like the huge view range and improved engine simulation because you're nitpicking about shaders and other such sparkly spangly bits then more fool you, I'll be playing CoD while you play Crysis 2.
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  8. #18
    Exactly my point , you'd be happy if you were offered a burnt sausage.
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    I see, so a game is *ruined* if it doesn't have graphics competitive with a dumbed-down mass-market game? I'd rather whine about things that actually affect the gameplay than whether I can make screenshot calendars. I think you need to tone down your expectations. Wings of Prey, for example, was only able to be as graphically impressive as it is because the view distance is extremely short and it's immediately apparent that the rest of the game was neglected in favour of graphical glitz. Wouldn't you rather play the game than just make videos?
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    What?? Disappointed with graphics??? I really don't know what screenshots you are looking at, but the details are great and many shots look almost photo realistic. Even the interior (the structure) of the plane is modeled. Someone posted a comparaison screenshot in the official 1c forum. It showed the difference between the stuka in IL2 and COD. It was like day and night.

    I suspect that many people who complain about the graphics, are fans of the wings of prey graphics. Looks certainly "old" and immersive with all these filters, but absolutely not realistic.

    And please, try first and comment later!
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