A community poll on 6DoF and how you fly the sim.. | Forums

[Lurch1962]

I currently fly modded only, mainly because 6DoF is so VITALLY important to situational awareness. From an aesthetic standpoint I don't greatly mind any of the current see-through polygons, although it does slightly distress me that in some planes there are such large gaps toward the rear that I'm enjoying an unrealistic advantage in visibility. But again, this is all secondary to the ability to be able to see around the cockpit framing, not to mention the other little benefits afforded.

And yes, I have a whole slew of other mods on the go, too!

Where any existing mod is demonstrably better/more realistic, I do believe it should be incorporated.

[Bearcat99]

Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
Well not going to say what I voted for in the poll as I am sure I will get a bashing from some.
On the other hand this topic is almost out dated with CoD at the door step. For me as of release date even though I do like the PTO very much it will be only CoD then, as I hate those frankenplanes, very few really well made mod planes, but those one can count on one hand.
As to CoD I very much hope critical parts will be locked so that amature tampering is not possible. But I guess that is wishful thinking as some will just think the harder to break the more of a challenge to do exactly that.

I am not talking about any of the frankenplanes.. Only variants of planes that are in the sim and are well made.. Perhaps the F-86 & Mig 15 as well..

[b34856]

I'm kind of confused.... What is "6DoF"?

[Bearcat99]

Originally posted by b34856:
I'm kind of confused.... What is "6DoF"?

6DoF

[RSS-Martin]

Originally posted by Bearcat99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
Well not going to say what I voted for in the poll as I am sure I will get a bashing from some.
On the other hand this topic is almost out dated with CoD at the door step. For me as of release date even though I do like the PTO very much it will be only CoD then, as I hate those frankenplanes, very few really well made mod planes, but those one can count on one hand.
As to CoD I very much hope critical parts will be locked so that amature tampering is not possible. But I guess that is wishful thinking as some will just think the harder to break the more of a challenge to do exactly that.

I am not talking about any of the frankenplanes.. Only variants of planes that are in the sim and are well made.. Perhaps the F-86 & Mig 15 as well.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well I would be more for the Lancaster, otherwise I am fairly anti jet, and rather early war. But for me online IL2 1946 is dead, just waiting for CoD to come out.

[Persecutor_352]

Online IL2 is hardly dead. Check the AKAFA campaigns, for example.

CoD, if it ever comes out (2 more weeks, be sure, anybody?) will, I think, not replace IL-2 for a *long* time. Too few planes, too restricted an arena, no matter how good it will be.

If you've ever tried 6DoF, you cannot possibly go back to flying without it. Doing so would be a lot like trying to fly with an 8-point hat switch after flying with TrackIR.

The "realistic" arguments are the height of silliness. Please, this is a simulation -- nothing here is real. The question that should be asked is not "is it real" .... rather "does it add to the immersion and entertainment value of the game?"

I'm surprised at the large percentage of voters in this poll who fly the stock game, otherwise the vote here is about what one would expect. Do I personally care whether 6DoF is accepted by Team DD? Not a whit! I've got the mods, and it's already there. So do each of you, should you choose to use it. If not, so you've exercised the power of choice. Nice option; glad we have it.

[b34856]

Originally posted by Bearcat99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by b34856:
I'm kind of confused.... What is "6DoF"?

6DoF </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah,thanks. So is this what you get when you buy something like TrackIR?

[Persecutor_352]

Originally posted by b34856:
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Ah,thanks. So is this what you get when you buy something like TrackIR?

That's correct, b ..... if the game you are running supports TrackIR and 6DoF. Some sims support TrackIR but don't implement 6 D(degrees)oF(Freedom); IL-2 in its stock form falls into this category. 6DoF was added to IL-2 with the mods.

[Woke_Up_Dead]

I would like 6DoF only if it can be used with a combination of keyboard/mouse/joystick so that I won't need to buy TIR to enable it.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally posted by tomtheyak:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KG26_Alpha:
No

I sense some paranoia here about 6DoF

Its totally unrealistic.

You flown small cockpit a/c Alpha?

I'm guessing not cos then you'd realise what your saying is frankly wrong.

Straps can be loosened, and whilst a good tight lap belt is a priority to keep you in your seat, loosening shoulder straps is a must to be able to peer round the framing or back over the tail, lean forward to adjust instruments - particularly the Spitfire, where the compass bowl is situated down in front of the joystick - IIRC the spitfire had a two length shoulder strap adjustment, one tight the other allowing more freedom of movement for just such eventualities. Indeed, more than one Spit pilot forgetting to tighten it found the gunsite was the first thing to remind him of his oversight in the event of a sudden stop! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes I fly, but not WW2 high powered aircraft pulling high G's and fighting for my life.

The Sutton Harness used by RAF allowed the pilot to lean forwards.
As did Luftwaffe pilots with a similar system.

But this has nothing to do with the unrealistic 6DoF views allowed in IL21946 modded versions being asked for into stock IL2 1946.