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  1. #51
    Originally Posted by Megalodon26 Go to original post
    it's probably going to be another year or two before a new PVE focused Ghost Recon game is ready to release. So you would prefer them NOT to keep the community engaged until then? That makes no sense whatsoever.Killing off support for Breakpoint isn't going to help the next game get created any faster.
    but if you want to go focus on another game, until a new Ghost Recon game is released, you are more than welcomed to. Nobody is going to force you to play Op Motherland, or any future updates.
    My point is they should stop wasting time on "improving" this terrible non ghost recon game and get on with producing something that is worthy of the name.

    unfortunately because ubisoft are now slapping "a ubisoft original" on all their new tom clancy games, this will probably never happen.

    i wish there was more uproar but most people here seem fine with breakpoint....everytime it gets new content. it's like "ooo new content, game can't be all that bad, i guess i'll keep playing, even though deep down i think the game is garbage"

    makes

    no

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    and it's always the same users here. saying the game sucks and the next minute praising an update / dlc and then back to saying it sucks again.

    over and over...i don't get it.

    i just visit the forums and have a chuckle and leave...maybe one day there'll be a good reason to look at this forums but not today.
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  2. #52
    Originally Posted by Pl4y3r_Tw0 Go to original post
    My point is they should stop wasting time on "improving" this terrible non ghost recon game and get on with producing something that is worthy of the name.

    unfortunately because ubisoft are now slapping "a ubisoft original" on all their new tom clancy games, this will probably never happen.

    i wish there was more uproar but most people here seem fine with breakpoint....everytime it gets new content. it's like "ooo new content, game can't be all that bad, i guess i'll keep playing, even though deep down i think the game is garbage"

    makes

    no

    sense

    and it's always the same users here. saying the game sucks and the next minute praising an update / dlc and then back to saying it sucks again.

    over and over...i don't get it.

    i just visit the forums and have a chuckle and leave...maybe one day there'll be a good reason to look at this forums but not today.
    Believe me the majority of people in this forum are NOT OK with BP. There has been uproar since it launched hence all the changes. I too am in that group BUT I've given my 2 cents at the start and through each update; I just don't keep marching with a pitch fork towards the company with rage as there's more to life that constantly moaning and *****ing on a forum over a game.

    I paid full price for this at launch, given feedback on why this game is not GR and what I felt needs to improve for it and future games (still do a little at times) and so as it's now years after launch, imma play and enjoy it for what it is. Doesn't mean I'm in love with the game though and I'll have my say in the next game by NOT handing my money over until way after launch now. What's more effective? Uproar on a forum or not giving them your money? (Both would be best of course). I really don't feel like it needs any more uproar and hostility in these forums. There's enough of that about still being fed through.

    I guess at the end of the day those users here are in the same boat. They got mugged paying for the game like me, hated it at the start and are happy that Ubi haven't just given up on it making it wasted money and have tried to turn it around as small as they do each time. This update looks like it will be good. Nothing wrong with saying as such. I mean if the company do something to improve the experience of a bad game, why wouldn't you say thanks or well done on that? It's feedback to tell them that that's more of the direction it should go in future, no? Besides you'll also see some saying something positive but with a reminder that there are still things to be done going forwards.
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  3. #53
    Originally Posted by Pl4y3r_Tw0 Go to original post
    My point is they should stop wasting time on "improving" this terrible non ghost recon game and get on with producing something that is worthy of the name.

    unfortunately because ubisoft are now slapping "a ubisoft original" on all their new tom clancy games, this will probably never happen.

    i wish there was more uproar but most people here seem fine with breakpoint....everytime it gets new content. it's like "ooo new content, game can't be all that bad, i guess i'll keep playing, even though deep down i think the game is garbage"

    makes

    no

    sense

    and it's always the same users here. saying the game sucks and the next minute praising an update / dlc and then back to saying it sucks again.

    over and over...i don't get it.

    i just visit the forums and have a chuckle and leave...maybe one day there'll be a good reason to look at this forums but not today.
    If people are still playing Breakpoint, then they are not wasting their time adding more content. And just because they are still supporting the game, doesn't mean that Ubi isn't already deep into development of the next game, After all, they they were able to keep adding content for Wildlands up until almost 2 months before Breakpoint released. The issues with Breakpoint, were because of design choices, not a lack of resources.
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    Originally Posted by Pl4y3r_Tw0 Go to original post

    i just visit the forums and have a chuckle and leave...maybe one day there'll be a good reason to look at this forums but not today.
    That is exactly why I visit the forum. There are some great lines here. It isn’t like we are ever going to get info from Ubi here.
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  5. #55
    Originally Posted by Pl4y3r_Tw0 Go to original post
    My point is they should stop wasting time on "improving" this terrible non ghost recon game and get on with producing something that is worthy of the name.

    unfortunately because ubisoft are now slapping "a ubisoft original" on all their new tom clancy games, this will probably never happen.

    i wish there was more uproar but most people here seem fine with breakpoint....everytime it gets new content. it's like "ooo new content, game can't be all that bad, i guess i'll keep playing, even though deep down i think the game is garbage"

    makes

    no

    sense

    and it's always the same users here. saying the game sucks and the next minute praising an update / dlc and then back to saying it sucks again.

    over and over...i don't get it.

    i just visit the forums and have a chuckle and leave...maybe one day there'll be a good reason to look at this forums but not today.
    If they don't improve this game, and gather that feedback while they're improving it, there's no reason to expect the name game to be "worthy of the name." IMO, they didn't do that with Wildlands. IMO, they didn't improve it in the areas that it needed to be improved so that the next game was worthy of the name "Ghost Recon." They added Predator DLC and El Tio and silly challenges like El Yeti. They did silly R6 and SC crossovers and a GRFS crossover that didn't respect the established lore. They didn't improve the game or its story such that it was more in-line with previous Ghost Recon games. Then for the next game, that they'd already started working on (and didn't take enough time to listen to feedback for), they doubled down on the most of the bad parts of Wildlands, and only improved in terms of graphics, animations, and cosmetic content. If they don't take the time to actually improve Breakpoint and listen to the feedback on those efforts as well as feedback on the direction of the game, the story, the gameplay, the content, etc., then the next game won't live up to the Ghost Recon name.
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    Originally Posted by Pl4y3r_Tw0 Go to original post
    My point is they should stop wasting time on "improving" this terrible non ghost recon game and get on with producing something that is worthy of the name.

    unfortunately because ubisoft are now slapping "a ubisoft original" on all their new tom clancy games, this will probably never happen.
    It's not an either/or situation. Breakpoint was produced whilst Wildlands was still being supported and I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be the case with the next game. Dropping support for Breakpoint serves no purpose and would be counter productive.


    Originally Posted by Pl4y3r_Tw0 Go to original post
    i wish there was more uproar but most people here seem fine with breakpoint....everytime it gets new content. it's like "ooo new content, game can't be all that bad, i guess i'll keep playing, even though deep down i think the game is garbage"

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    It makes no sense, because you just made the scenario up as a strawman and projected it onto how people here are approaching the game and its updates. You can play a game and enjoy it whilst still recognising that it hasn't fulfilled its potential or the promise of the franchise and needs more work.


    Originally Posted by Pl4y3r_Tw0 Go to original post
    henry
    i just visit the forums and have a chuckle and leave...maybe one day there'll be a good reason to look at this forums but not today.
    I visit to try and leave some feedback that may help improve the game the way I'd like and discuss that with other players.
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    Originally Posted by AI BLUEFOX Go to original post
    It's not an either/or situation. Breakpoint was produced whilst Wildlands was still being supported and I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be the case with the next game. Dropping support for Breakpoint serves no purpose and would be counter productive.
    I really hope this is the case. Not so much to get more content, (although that is welcome), but more because I still hope they can continue to use BP to see what is popular and implement that in the next game.
    As we’ve said many times, the best thing would be greater community engagement, but short of that, using BP as a test platform and taking notes, might just be the next best thing.
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    Originally Posted by Hugo-FOU Go to original post
    I really hope this is the case. Not so much to get more content, (although that is welcome), but more because I still hope they can continue to use BP to see what is popular and implement that in the next game.
    As we’ve said many times, the best thing would be greater community engagement, but short of that, using BP as a test platform and taking notes, might just be the next best thing.
    From the bits I've read from their last earnings call, it seems to me Ubi is determined to plow ahead with their vision(s) admitting challenges that may come in the form of failures but with the attitude that it will all work out in the end.

    Case in point... They acknowledged the overwhelming criticism over Frontline but are not shaken in continuing with it's direction. They reiterate that their goal is make their games appeal to a wider audience so personally, I only see GR getting more and more watered down as we go. They think many are saying FC6 is the best in the series but I disagree. The thing is, it's performing really well for them so who can argue.

    I still think GR will pose a challenge in that regard for them but I see nothing in what they say or do that gives me confidence that they will change tack. ....at least not in any real, meaningful way to GR fans. Perhaps someday the scales will tip and GR will have a whole new fanbase that likes the stuff Ubi is doing. ....who knows.

    I'm done with following the dangling carrot myself.
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    Originally Posted by Kean_1 Go to original post
    From the bits I've read from their last earnings call, it seems to me Ubi is determined to plow ahead with their vision(s) admitting challenges that may come in the form of failures but with the attitude that it will all work out in the end.

    Case in point... They acknowledged the overwhelming criticism over Frontline but are not shaken in continuing with it's direction. They reiterate that their goal is make their games appeal to a wider audience so personally, I only see GR getting more and more watered down as we go. They think many are saying FC6 is the best in the series but I disagree. The thing is, it's performing really well for them so who can argue.

    I still think GR will pose a challenge in that regard for them but I see nothing in what they say or do that gives me confidence that they will change tack. ....at least not in any real, meaningful way to GR fans. Perhaps someday the scales will tip and GR will have a whole new fanbase that likes the stuff Ubi is doing. ....who knows.

    I'm done with following the dangling carrot myself.
    I hope you’re wrong, but I don’t actually have much hope that you are.
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