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    I noted last Adolf Galland kills were B 26. This man was a real unbeliavable pilot.
    ....and please, all note the incredible number of russian planes shoot down !! I have few doubts on why 1C team hate so much FW 190.


    All in all some 1200 P51 kills reported.
    I have to find the number Americans addmited agains Germans and how many they claim to have shoot down


    Nice statistic
    Friedrich Karl tutti Muller killed many spits

    Thats why red hates me

    i am a ace without nowing it



    http://math.fce.vutbr.cz/safarik/ACES/luftwaffe.wartime...victory.credits.html


    Have fun BTW look at some alt details
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    There was far too much over claiming going on, on both sides.

    I wouldn't take these too seriously if i were you

    ...btw, whats with the porn link on that web page?...near the bottom
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    How can you take a list with porn seriously?
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    Are these confirmed or also unconfirmed kills? If they were taken from LW records, no propaganda origin, you can take away 5-15% for shure.
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    Originally posted by Sintubin:
    I noted last Adolf Galland kills were B 26. This man was a real unbeliavable pilot.
    ....and please, all note the incredible number of russian planes shoot down !! I have few doubts on why 1C team hate so much FW 190.


    All in all some 1200 P51 kills reported.
    I have to find the number Americans addmited agains Germans and how many they claim to have shoot down


    Nice statistic
    Friedrich Karl tutti Muller killed many spits

    Thats why red hates me

    i am a ace without nowing it



    http://math.fce.vutbr.cz/safarik/ACES/luftwaffe.wartime...victory.credits.html


    Have fun BTW look at some alt details


    It`s a pity really. This could have been a good informative post, but it`s so obviously a thinly veiled flame troll post.

    Anyway...

    The reasons why the Germans had so many kills are many.

    1. Most Germans learned their skills and tactics in the Spanish Civil war.

    2. Most Russians were taken by surprise on the Russian Front. Many Russian aircraft were on the ground at the time of the initial attack. many russian pilots were completely green. many of the good commanders who may have commanded the airforce had been purged by stalin.

    3. The Germans never had a break, unlike the Americans and Brits, literally fighting through the whole war. Any break they had was very small.

    4. Many German pilots PROTECTED their Aces to the point of almost blowing a mission just so that their `Adolf gallands` could come home with another 2-4 kills.

    That`s the unbiased truth.
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    Reminds me to the reports the US-Pilots and crews made during WW2 about the German submarines they sank.

    It was counted after the war, the US-Pilots alone sunk 700% of all submarines Germany ever built between 33 and 45!
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    Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
    Reminds me to the reports the US-Pilots and crews made during WW2 about the German submarines they sank.

    It was counted after the war, the US-Pilots alone sunk 700% of all submarines Germany ever built between 33 and 45!
    Let's face it though, having the Yanks sink 7 times the number of operational units in your fleet is going to have an absolutely crushing effect on your navy's morale. Given those sorts of losses I'm suprised the Kriegsmarine even put to sea.
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    Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
    Reminds me to the reports the US-Pilots and crews made during WW2 about the German submarines they sank.

    It was counted after the war, the US-Pilots alone sunk 700% of all submarines Germany ever built between 33 and 45!

    Reminds me of the kill claims both sides made during the Battle of Britain.

    Or Dieppe:

    DIEPPE 19 AUGUST 1942
    During this battle the RAF claimed 120 Kills against actual Luftwaffe losses of 40.
    Luftwaffe claims awarded were 113. The RAF actually lost 48 aircraft in Air-to -Air Combat.



    Overclaiming was common and done by everyone.
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