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[Megalodon26]

So I just logged into my character, after 2 days of being away. I saw the news about the up coming stream and such, so on a whim decided to play a bit again.

I am a closed and open beta player, have been for wildlands and for breakpoint, with the ultimate edition.

anyway, today I suddenly have the tac50 brown and the mk14 assault brown in my inventory, yeah, the ones you need to buy..
did we get that as a present?

anyone else got those presents??


nobody have mentioned or noticed this yet. can't find anything online about this.

A new "infiltration" pack was added to the ultimate edition in the store. But it is not supposed to be retroactive to anyone who already own the Ultimate Edition. I just checked, and they still locked for me, so you must have lucked out,

[Hugo-FOU]

^^ Must be tough to have that perspective and the perpetual disappointment that goes with it. Maybe gaming, but certainly Ubisoft games, are not for you and you should find something that brings you some enjoyment?

Here's how it works for me

1. A game company (Ubisoft included) reveal a new game or feature
2. They advertise it to me in a way to try and get me to buy it. I understand this, because they are trying to make money and I don't begrudge them making money.
3. They start from and then reference a franchise brand so that I know what type of game it will be.
4. They sometimes ask other people in the industry their opinion and show that to prospective buyers. They did with Wildland and this upset some who wanted everyone to hate it.
5a. They release a beta, often preceded by a tech test and closed beta and they give advance playtests at games confrerences to the media. I can see the gameplay and I can hear independent reviews about the game and I can play it
5b. They launch the game and measure player acquisition and player retention. See point 2. Sometimes I like the game, sometimes I don't and I tell them which bits I don't like and how I think they could be better.
6 They add new content whilst the game is still active, see point 2, but maintain user support and game servers until well after the next game. I still play Wildlands, it still has event weekends 4 years after launch, I played GRAW2 for 7 years. I will be playing Motherland over 2 years since Breakpoint released.
7. They add new features and try to fix issues, based on what me and everyone else says at point 5 because otherwise point 2 fails next time around.
8. They have now done this several times for 20 years, and I hope they keep doing it for another 20


Now I'm sure some of you will see that as deflection and protection, but that is honestly how it works out for me and I have thousands and thousands of hours playing games I enjoy to prove it. Also some duff ones I get easily bored with and there are things I'd improve about every GR game and about Ubisoft, not least their frustrating approach to communications. However, if I was as cynical about them as some of you I'd move on and not buy their games. You won't find me on the Division, Far Cry and Assassins Creed forums, I don't enjoy those games, and no longer on the R6 forums either, because I jumped off at point 2 a while back. That game is no longer for me, which is disappointing and I tell them, but their game and their call.

It's not blind, fan boy praise to like a game/franchise/company, just because you don't by the way, if anyone is tempted to go there. The reality is that there are multiple dimensions of varying opinion and perspectives that make up what people feel about these things and trying to distill that down to a binary, good vs evil dialogue is far too simplistic.

I have to agree with you. (Including about comms. If they fixed some of their comm issues, you might not need to make posts like this.)

I feel the need to remind everyone that these are the words of a Delta Company member and should be taken with a grain of salt.

This isn't meant to be derogatory in anyway. Please do not accuse me of being derogatory again and then disappear if I ask you to point out what was derogatory about what I've said.

I’m an ex Delta company member, who got kicked for making a joke. One that was simply trying to get a point across. A point many in the community supported. I have more reason to feel bitter toward Ubisoft than most, but I agree with Blues post.

You shouldn’t question his integrity. He is more forgiving than many, but more than that he is fair and still spends much of his time trying to express the views of the community in a constructive way, to Ubisoft, via the Delta channels.

[Virtual-Chris]

Ubisoft launches are definitely crafted to try and conceal things… In the case of Breakpoint, it was not positioned as a solo looter shooter… the lack of an AI team was not evident. Instead the reveal showed a squad working together in ways we could only dream of. And none of the looting aspects were evident either. The Breakpoint reveal was a bamboozle. And then they intentionally don’t reveal the MTX on any game release until days after launch and reviews are published. That’s a clear attempt to hide the truth from early buyers.

I’m watching the Far Cry 6 launch with some interest and some of the same things are repeating… no MTX until post launch and it also looks to have become a looter shooter although that’s not how it’s positioned at all.

[jmagnum50]

When Breakpoint was released, I was excited to finally play it. The biggest problem with my experience was that I had major connection issues with the game. At some points, it felt like I couldn't connect for half a month or longer. When I did, I just enjoyed what I could. Didn't care for areas getting locked behind gear score (kept away some goodies), and the reward system was bugged, but I did make the most of it.
However, with the release of the Ghost experience update, I found myself enjoying it nearly whenever I can. Despite the fact the reward system is nearly gone and I could still lose connection to weather or something serious, I still have a good time. It may not be offline compatible, but it's definitely worth checking out if you're a new guy.
There have been games that have had very bad releases. However, they can get better if the team manages to fix up some things, and while BP isn't perfect, it's in a much better state than when it started in my opinion. Personally, I don't know if BP's release was as bad as Cyberpunk, and I don't know if that game's improved, much. I will say that, despite all the rage and hate that's seen in the forum, I think the devs (of BP) have been trying to fix up some big problems, so good on them.

[Steven527]

Ubisoft launches are definitely crafted to try and conceal things… In the case of Breakpoint, it was not positioned as a solo looter shooter… the lack of an AI team was not evident. Instead the reveal showed a squad working together in ways we could only dream of. And none of the looting aspects were evident either. The Breakpoint reveal was a bamboozle. And then they intentionally don’t reveal the MTX on any game release until days after launch and reviews are published. That’s a clear attempt to hide the truth from early buyers.

I’m watching the Far Cry 6 launch with some interest and some of the same things are repeating… no MTX until post launch and it also looks to have become a looter shooter although that’s not how it’s positioned at all.

I kind of agree, but at the same time a lot of that was evident in the open beta. I just didn't really want to see it. There were no teammates, I hit a loot box in the first two minutes and those dreadful Sith lord characters were there also in the first few minutes. So yeah Ubi market pitch was disingenuous, but I did have the data to make a different choice. I won't give that benefit of the doubt going forward. There is a cost to them in that others paid more attention and it showed in their sales. The knock on effect is others like myself that did buy will be less likely to until we see a change. I have bought every Far Cry game except this one and won't be. Their bleeding will continue if they continue to drive their product suite in this direction.

[ApexMandalorian]

I kind of agree, but at the same time a lot of that was evident in the open beta. I just didn't really want to see it. There were no teammates, I hit a loot box in the first two minutes and those dreadful Sith lord characters were there also in the first few minutes. So yeah Ubi market pitch was disingenuous, but I did have the data to make a different choice. I won't give that benefit of the doubt going forward. There is a cost to them in that others paid more attention and it showed in their sales. The knock on effect is others like myself that did buy will be less likely to until we see a change. I have bought every Far Cry game except this one and won't be. Their bleeding will continue if they continue to drive their product suite in this direction.

Yeah. We knew about the loot stuff a week or two after the reveal of Breakpoint, because gaming media and some youtubers reported on it. Then the OTT (Online Technical Test) released a few weeks after that, and we saw it there. By the time the open beta rolled around, Ubisoft had already received ample negative feedback about the tiered loot, gear score, and lack of AI teammates. So we knew about the game's shortcomings well before launch, but Chris is also correct that the reveal didn't showcase the loot or the lack of AI teammates.

[AI BLUEFOX]

I feel the need to remind everyone that these are the words of a Delta Company member and should be taken with a grain of salt.

This isn't meant to be derogatory in anyway. Please do not accuse me of being derogatory again and then disappear if I ask you to point out what was derogatory about what I've said.

I guess you couldn't resist the temptation. Of course it's derogatory; to take with a pinch of salt is basically accusing me of not being truthful, and based on your posting history I think that derogatory is exactly what you intended it to be.

Guess what, though, it is how I feel. You need to come to terms with the simple fact that other people see things differently to you.

[red2smok]

Ubi has failed numerous times to deliver anything close to expectations

They could knock it outta park, as I have stated such on every ubi foul ball

Still guessing their misguided attempt will at least warrant a chuckle

Toon excitement maybe our yard stick

[FcAc-No-Moe]

I kind of agree, but at the same time a lot of that was evident in the open beta. I just didn't really want to see it. There were no teammates, I hit a loot box in the first two minutes and those dreadful Sith lord characters were there also in the first few minutes. So yeah Ubi market pitch was disingenuous, but I did have the data to make a different choice. I won't give that benefit of the doubt going forward. There is a cost to them in that others paid more attention and it showed in their sales. The knock on effect is others like myself that did buy will be less likely to until we see a change. I have bought every Far Cry game except this one and won't be. Their bleeding will continue if they continue to drive their product suite in this direction.

And that is why I have and many others have been very vocal about pre-ordering and why is not a good idea. Again, the money is not really the point because 60 to 150 is not going to make anyone richer or poorer but multiply that times Thousands and it will let UBI know that they first need to make a good movie, erm, sorry, Game before people will part with their money, to me, that is more the point.

I have also been looking at bits and pieces of FC6 because I may get it after a while but the more I look into it, the more disappointed I get, and not because of the Loot, Gear Score or whatever other RPG element or asset it will have, I already knew it was going to have it as that has been their trend and their history and nothing would change that. My disappointment is that every time I see something new, I see am even more Arcade-Ish Cheesed Out weapon, enough to double smack my face and wonder if FC6 is or will be a test bed until Xdefecation comes out.

[Virtual-Chris]

I kind of agree, but at the same time a lot of that was evident in the open beta. I just didn't really want to see it. There were no teammates, I hit a loot box in the first two minutes and those dreadful Sith lord characters were there also in the first few minutes. So yeah Ubi market pitch was disingenuous, but I did have the data to make a different choice. I won't give that benefit of the doubt going forward. There is a cost to them in that others paid more attention and it showed in their sales. The knock on effect is others like myself that did buy will be less likely to until we see a change. I have bought every Far Cry game except this one and won't be. Their bleeding will continue if they continue to drive their product suite in this direction.

Yeah, it all became clear early on, but the Breakpoint Reveal event and gameplay told a very different story from what was lurking in the game. It’s unfortunate, because they lost a lot of trust with the Breakpoint launch. I will no longer pre order anything from them. Will wait until reviews and a couple of title updates are out before buying, and ideally, until it’s on discount a month after launch… assuming I actually like it.

As for what will be revealed this week, I won’t take what they say at face value… it needs to be released and reviewed before any decision about it can be made as far as I’m concerned. Ubisoft turned me from a fan into a skeptic.