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AbuZnood
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We should just give him a new button that allow to switch from undodgeable finishers to unblockable finishers. Oh, and let's give another nerf to gryphon also.
Because weeb power and **** the knight bias.
Kyoshin is scary. His kit has tools to deal with every single hero in the game. He can put ugly pressure and break any agression attempt on a good read. Full-block, Dodge attack, unblo-undodgeables (light AND heavy)
The only think he miss is variable timings heavies, trading capacities and a neutral bash (which he do not have aI think but correct me if I m wrong)
He is a very strong duelist and an average team fighter, though an excelent ganker since his 22 dmg fullblock counter does not feed any revenge or such., and by the way, stuns you out 2 seconds of your revenge if you have one
And I sinceraely don't understand the community in this game. (well, I do in fact but it desperate me)
Let heroes exist for a week before complaining. Especially a semi-agressive hero like this which will obviously take more time to take in hand in opposition to straightforward hero like gryphon.
Kyoshin has zero answers to deal with bashes let alone unblockables. For a hero that's meant to survive and thrive in a team fight scenario with his stance that's pretty poor. Not even considering the face that his hitboxes are trash for doing any sort of target swapping with said stance. His stance also has zero way to deal with people who early dodge since that trumps all of his attacks from his stance including feint into GB. So he's not a decent anti ganker or team fighter.
Far as being a "very strong duelist" goes he's not. Again, his stance has no answer to bashes or unblockables. If you go into stance and the opponent makes the reaction to you entering stance they can just unblockable you because you're not going to be able to feint out in time to parry let alone dodge. You can stuff his unblockable mix up from his stance in nearly every situation thanks to his awful chain link times. Hell you can stuff his regular heavies as well because of how bad the chain link times are.
His chain bash can give a reaction GB even if you eat a light. The forward chain bash is reactable with no mully mix because he lacks a feintable forward dodge attack and another attack to mix with it (like how zhanhu and TG rochi had) and also gives a GB to people who make the reaction dodge. Meaning offensively and defensively he's not strong. He's only a better duelist in name compared to his team fight capabilities because more of his issues actually come into play there.
Kyoshin is factually very underpowered right now. To claim other wise either means you don't understand his kit as well as you think you do or your grasp on the game's fundamentals is severely lacking.
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