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  1. #11
    Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
    Normally i'd agree but there are some glaring flaws/problems in his kit that shouldn't be an issue at this point. Firstly his bash forces himself and his opponent too far away from each other if the other person makes some kind of forward movement. This was a bug found in early access that made it though. Secondly he's capable of stuffing GB attempts to his stance on reaction by tossing his stance light on GB indicator. Thirdly his top heavy unblockable stance can be early back dodged on a single timing to avoid both committing to and feinting to GB.


    On top of that we have some very questionable numbers. His chain link times are abusrdly slow at 367ms. His time to fast flow into his stance from anything but blocking is 567ms which is far slower than any other FB stance. his time to enter said stance to SB is 200ms so he cant stuff hitstun lik aramusha can. He consumes waaaaaaay too much stamina. Effectively paying 2 heavies worth of stamina just for 1 heavies worth of damage.
    For whatever reason you can get a reactionary GB for dodging both his dash bash as well as his chain bash even from light hitstun. His hitboxes are embarassingly bad.


    I can continue to make complaints of course but no one in their well informed minds can look at current hero's release and say we need to wait and see. There's a lot of no brainer adjustments that can be made before we look at some of the other issues that would actually need some discussing to talk about. And complaining about these issues right now is exactly what we need to do since the devs might actually adjust him a bit when early access period is over next week.
    Seconded.
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  2. #12
    Protos_88 No need to be salty .... The Buff and Fix is needed , Kyoshin is D tier at max right now
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  3. #13
    Originally Posted by RobAaronCross Go to original post
    Protos_88 No need to be salty .... The Buff and Fix is needed , Kyoshin is D tier at max right now
    He has no idea what he's talking about. It's okay.
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  4. #14
    Originally Posted by deathtocakl Go to original post
    He has no idea what he's talking about. It's okay.
    Haha you have right?
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  5. #15
    hitboxes are bad for him, real bad.

    numbers are weird, they need to tweak that.

    bash sometimes push too much so bye to your light follow.

    some animations are ugly , weird, difficult to parry, most are great.

    He have potential, some kyoshin turtles actually managed to blank me (if I play with him, with pk I can destroy them) right now I´m very salty for losing against a turtle using him 5-0 in breach godamn he managed always to survive with less than 10 health my reactions serves nothing, I´m rep zero with him only trained like 15 minutes so I´m not the best but got many cool mixes and kills, but he at least has potential,Is not a jorm case, maybe they rushed him or made him like this to avoid people saying he is too OP like happened with Gryphon. I´m sure they will tweak him for the best.

    edit- ohh F I´m Mayan King Gaming again using my son´s account.
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  6. #16
    Originally Posted by Protos_88 Go to original post
    Sureee faster more dmg and wings plx
    LooooooooL
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  7. #17
    Originally Posted by RobAaronCross Go to original post
    Dont get me wrong kit is amazing but he needs HUGE BUFFS, and faster animations for a few attacks , and im scared Ubi wont do anything about it ,so far all newly released heroes were busted and now thats a Samurai he is weak, also if he doesnt get tweaked he will always be a F or low D Tier Heroat max in the longrun since some animations are waaaay too Crooked and slow and like i stated before he needs a damage buffs

    He needs some form of parry punish. He's called a "Defense Heavy" character but he has no parry punish. He also has no gank protection because if someone hits after his first full block counter attack, then he gets interrupted
    I reallly enjoy him but he feels really slow and weak, the full guard is so bad for damage. 4 hits to get 20 dmg. Don't get me wrong it looks good but functionally it's terrible. And the unblockable is just useless half the time because it just gets interrupted.

    the buffs are N e c e s s a r y He is weak.

    - By playing him further i noticed that his Stamina is quite low , he is able to put out a lot of attacks, but with that Damage/Stamina Ratio, its just not efficient enough to be considered balanced

    - Another thing is that people can forward dodge into your kick , knocking you back and basically denying you the follow up , Kick is also Easily dodgeable and leaves you exposed because of the
    bad recovery

    - Hitboxes feel like they are getting worse and worse the more i play.

    - Some attacks only do damage after the whole animation is done even tho the sword already hit the enemy

    - Some Slashes go through for only a portion of the way the blade travels and not the whole way , meaning that unless the enemies that are next to you are really close , you wont be able to external hit them, Ive experienced Gryphon also doing external damage with each of his attacks (except Top Attacks Obviously) so i think this might be a hitbox issue tied to the blade hitbox, what makes me think that is freezes video, where at some point he adresses the hitbox issues and you can se on the video that the blade goes through the enemy but does no damage (not sure if its just a for honor thing or if other characters also have that issue)

    Something that would be nice , is if he gets Some Hyperarmor on some attacks , doesnt have to be all of them , only some
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  8. #18
    Originally Posted by Protos_88 Go to original post
    Sureee faster more dmg and wings plx then i will be happy and delete this game... plx fo that ubi... i buy this game on premiere. Now i wonder who destroy this game... new bf and cya
    English when ?
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  9. #19
    Originally Posted by Pain-Seeker Go to original post
    English when ?
    Damn that was a Violation XD
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  10. #20
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    Sad to say that Kyoshin does indeed require some tweaking in the upward direction.

    I thought his Kaze Stance would be OP but wow. Is it ever NOT.

    Others have already made better suggestions than I could, so I'll just say that Kyoshin is weak and needs buffs.
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