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I said that as well in the OP's other thread on the feedback suggestions forum.
But this would be the only solution for in 1 game.
'Division 3'
And that's what we are talking about right?
A balanced DZ in div3?
Maybe not begging but I've seen you mentioning a pve dz multiple times.
Have you ever pictured a pve dz in your head?
Let's see:
Heroic landmarks are already easy solo.
In a group its boring AF.
Imagine doing landmarks with 15 other people.
You wouldn't even see an npc because 99% hides behind cover with a skill build.
1% is all of a sudden brave enough to go dps.
(And they are feeling powerful too while non of their bullets hit.)
And that is because of the 15 drones & 15 turrets.
No one is shooting because there is no point doing that.
And there is you trying to shoot an enemy.
Not trying because he's hard to kill.
But trying to get 1 hit before he's annihilated.
I can tell you first it might be fun as hell, but after an hour you're already getting sick of boredom because it's to easy.
Guarantee you that if they do a pve dz.
That you will ask for private servers within a day.
Especially if you do legendarys solo (but cry about a little pvp)
You would have no business in a pve dz.
Yea maybe to get the exclusives that aren't exclusives anymore because DZ is pve now.
So first I'm "begging". But now it's straw man all the way down. Great.
Let me make something perfectly clear here: There is a distinct difference between pointing out how bad an idea it is to mix PVE and PVP, and the entirely different topic of how to do some form of open world Dark zone in a way that would be good for PVE.
Regardless, you don't do yourself any credit by making up fabricated reasons then arguing against those instead of what people are actually saying.
When have I ever once in all my posts on these forums(or anywhere else for that matter) asked or even implied I wanted private servers?
And do you think for a moment that repeatedly pointing out the flaws with the DZ somehow makes them less valid? Or that because I point them out that I don't like PVP? Why do you think I always bring up EVE online? It's because I played and enjoyed it for more time than Division 1 and 2 have ever existed And because it's about a million times more of a reall PVP experience than the halfa**ed attempts Massive has made.
So please stop making assumptions.
Now...to address the actual points you brought up:
Making a PVE-only toggle for the DZ is, at best, a bandaid solution. Throwing a bone to players this late in the lifespan of the game won't hurt anything. But if we're talking about Division 3, then nothing you described from Div2's DZ is on the table.
I would imagine a real PVE dark zone would be more like Survival from Division 1, only with more hunters or rogue agent NPCs, better AI, with mandatory directives of Ammo Hoarder and no regen thrown in, forcing players to conserve ammo and armor kits.
Throw on top of that random events or procedurally generated missions that could either be taken at the entrance, or discovered inside the DZ via crates or drops from kills, similar to how you sometimes get bounties from hostage situations in the LZ of Division 2. These random missions might have additional directives, or boss encounters with special conditions.
There's a wealth of ideas which could be taken from other looter games, such as diablo 3 or POE. A day/night cycle could be used similar to hunter mask encounters from div2. Special materials ala exotic recipies could be scattered throughout.
So don't give me some weak boring example of the laziest parts of farming the DZ and tell me it's a bad idea. All you're doing is showing a lack of creativity.
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