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  1. #91
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    Originally Posted by DutchLMB4ever Go to original post
    You know what's more entertaining...
    I'm a PvE player defending pvevp.

    And he's a allrounda player (apparently)
    Defending pve players. (like me)
    He said that he didn't bother reading because I don't read what he said:
    After I said 'I know you don't like pvp'.

    This means he likes pvp/pvevp but he (suspiciously fanatically) stands up for the pve players.
    Because we (not him) need a pve dz because:
    We can't get the Exclusives.
    We don't want pvp.
    There is no balance.
    And in the LZ its only us & team.

    Lady's and gentleman
    Is it a bird?
    Is it a striker drone?
    Nope... it is *drumroll*
    LadyBullCat AKA The Great PvE Savior
    Put your hands in the air like u surrender emote!!

    We pve players were so lost without him.
    We are so glad he's here now.
    The only bad thing is we are never gonna see him.
    Because he only does this for us pve players.
    So he's gonna be a myth, a legend among us all.
    That saved us all from pvevp.
    He is a God, no... he is a legendary NPC boss, nope...nope how dare I...
    He... is... the Head of The Division!!!

    Meh

    what a beautiful poem!! should be featured in the next tom clancy novel .
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    Originally Posted by DutchLMB4ever Go to original post
    Would be nice but a big map isn't the solution.
    Everyone is gonna play 'tag you're it' in there.
    Yeah, that was a flaw of Division 1's DZ, but things like unlimited sprint / no stamina bar mediated that. Not fully, because chasing someone can get boring, but it helped.

    Originally Posted by Aspoiu Go to original post
    ... yet nobody really knows what form and shape final Heartland will be.
    The fact that it was MIA at the makeshift E3 is not very encouraging... either is very far from a finished product, or the closed test response was bad (or both).
    They might change it ten times from what was leaked from the test to the release.
    Some of us here will be shaping the end product of Heartland.

    I can only hope others get into future tests.
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  3. #93
    Originally Posted by N3mB0t Go to original post
    what a beautiful poem!! should be featured in the next tom clancy novel .
    It should be a song like a the division anthem.
    Every player should sing it in their headset mic just to logg in.
    1 stutter means delta error and restart the song
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    I'd like to see a hard separation between PvE and PvP gameplay.
    The DZ's could be "travel points" like New York and The Summit.
    Separate gears sets and attributes/talents for PvE and PvP would also stop the PvP imbalance from ruining the PvE balance.

    Had to get one last post in before they lock up these forums.

    Kap.
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  5. #95
    DIVISION PVP=CHEATERS No thx
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    Originally Posted by chicagolongball Go to original post
    Nobody said PvP was larger than PvE in Division 2. We said that PvP doesnt work well, messes with the balance and fun of PvE and can be better implemented in it's own dedicated game without the handcuff of PvE on the same gear. Separation will make everyone happier, and each camp gets a dedicated game with all resources spent in one direction.
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    Ohh wow. I am so clueless.

    So, here goes. This is 100% my opinion. D1 came ouit. I wasn't a really big fan of PVP in D1, so I *thought* Ubisoft sort of decided to introduce 'Six" for the PVP players. And I thought D2 was *really* supposed to be PVE with some PVP because so many PVPers whined.
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    Originally Posted by Sircowdog1 Go to original post
    With all due respect, given the complete and utter failure of PVP in both Division 1 and Division 2....

    If you want your PVP, go play heartland/warzone or whatever garbage BR knock-off crap is popular right now.

    PVP has been a plague on the game. A cancer. A vomitus mass of kids and hateful people who have nothing better to do than to hack and cheat in the name of being some of the worst "gamers" the genre has ever seen. All while spewing racist, phobic bile.

    And on top of that, Massive/Ubi has shown repeatedly that they are completely clueless and incompetent when it comes to balance, design, flow, or even the basics of what makes a PVP game good.

    So no thank you. With complete and utter honesty, and spoken from the bottom of my heart: I would rather that there never be another Division game EVER than see PVP inflicted upon the franchise again.
    So basically any game with pvp. I don't mind the trash talk at all. It's the poor quality pvp that can quietly go away. This is the worsts state of pvp since launch and it was never good. Yet some how they managed to make it worse
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    Originally Posted by ModalThread611 Go to original post
    So basically any game with pvp.


    FFS can people not differentiate between absolutes or something? Everything isn't a tribal war. There's nuance. Granularity. Shades of grey.

    I've played games with good PVP. I like good PVP. It's just that Division is not that. It's NEVER been good. At best there have been brief moments of glory while chasing down rogues or being chased as a rogue.

    But let me make something perfectly clear for the back seats that seem to be still struggling with this: Those brief moments do NOT justify the entire rest of the rolling dumpster fire that Division 1 and 2's PVP has been since the launch of the franchise back in 2016.
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    Originally Posted by Sircowdog1 Go to original post
    And the balance for all is wrecked when incompetent devs try to mix them.

    And it will continue to be so as long as players ignore the flaws amd tell others to "get over it" instead of demanding better.
    Agreed
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