why black priors can return to his guard when you do a correct read? | Forums

[TigrisOfDeus]

ohh dude, I try PK and yes it´s next to impossible to punish Black priors unlike other heavies, man he even can ignore my gb after a failed bulwark flip, I mean his recoveries must be the lower in the entire game. Tried dodge attacks but it seems he can recover super fast, but against others my dodge attacks worked.

I think I will never use Pk again.

[deathtocakl]

ohh dude, I try PK and yes it´s next to impossible to punish Black priors unlike other heavies, man he even can ignore my gb after a failed bulwark flip, I mean his recoveries must be the lower in the entire game. Tried dodge attacks but it seems he can recover super fast, but against others my dodge attacks worked.

I think I will never use Pk again.

Pk is actually one of the better characters at dealing with option selects and as far as duels go. she's not godly of course, but a pretty good character. Once you apply bleed her pressure is insane

[Knight_Raime]

Pk is actually one of the better characters at dealing with option selects and as far as duels go. she's not godly of course, but a pretty good character. Once you apply bleed her pressure is insane

In general characters with soft feints have a better time against OS's. But Pk's dodge attack is like Nuxia's in that it comes out 300ms at the earliest into her dodge. So like Nuxia she cannot punish the chain bash with a dodge attack. At this point i'd almost claim PK's dodge attacks to be the worst in the entire roster. But I think you could argue shinobi's being worse.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

In general characters with soft feints have a better time against OS's. But Pk's dodge attack is like Nuxia's in that it comes out 300ms at the earliest into her dodge. So like Nuxia she cannot punish the chain bash with a dodge attack. At this point i'd almost claim PK's dodge attacks to be the worst in the entire roster. But I think you could argue shinobi's being worse.

Nah, shinobi's is way better. Still thrash, but it deals good damage and stamina damage.

[Knight_Raime]

Nah, shinobi's is way better. Still thrash, but it deals good damage and stamina damage.

Pks benefit to her dodge attack is that deep gouge can be delayed to hold someone on stun a little longer. But the dodge attack comes out late and has *** recovery if whiffed.

Shinobi dodge kick/light is incredibly reactable and can't be used to punish most things. However shinobi himself can get okay damage if most heros try to punish it.

So basically you look at a tool that can actually punish things but is hard to do and has a niche ish benefit. Or a punish tool that rarely punishes but can lead to a different punish if someone is dumb.

As I said I think you could argue either way. But both are hilariously bad.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

Pks benefit to her dodge attack is that deep gouge can be delayed to hold someone on stun a little longer. But the dodge attack comes out late and has *** recovery if whiffed.

Shinobi dodge kick/light is incredibly reactable and can't be used to punish most things. However shinobi himself can get okay damage if most heros try to punish it.

So basically you look at a tool that can actually punish things but is hard to do and has a niche ish benefit. Or a punish tool that rarely punishes but can lead to a different punish if someone is dumb.

As I said I think you could argue either way. But both are hilariously bad.

I find pk's worse because she has no mobility with it, I would never attempt a dodge attack in a teamfight unless I feel I will die anyway unless I reposition. Her dodge attack has high gb vulnerability, she does not beat a charged bash with it, and while most people simply just parry it, it has high enough recovery to dodge it and get a gb. If pk would not deal nearly 40 damage with a gb, she would be the worse assassin in 4v4, and unless they really f up one of the two reworks, she will be again. I would trade that gb punish for a real dodge attack easily.

Shino is thrash too, but we will see tomorrow if that will be the case.

[Saint_YeetsXB]

Pk's dodge attack can be caught by kick grab of highlander. This makes it one of the weak ones in my eyes as only her, valk, and zhanhu will be caught with kick to grab

[Goat_of_Vermund]

Pk's dodge attack can be caught by kick grab of highlander. This makes it one of the weak ones in my eyes as only her, valk, and zhanhu will be caught with kick to grab

Yep. It is caught by basically anything.

[King_of_Xibalba]

Oh I forgot about this thread.
It evolved lol to why PK dodge attack is the worst of the game?
So sad, cause It´s true.

Devs, can you do a little tweking/fixing?please?

[deathtocakl]

Oh I forgot about this thread.
It evolved lol to why PK dodge attack is the worst of the game?
So sad, cause It´s true.

Devs, can you do a little tweking/fixing?please?

I'm sure jorm, nuxia, and pk are next on the list for changes. With the other assassins being buffed or already viable, I'm sure they will be next.