why black priors can return to his guard when you do a correct read? | Forums

[King_of_Xibalba]

IM TIRED OF THIS BS, you cannot punish this priviliged son of a gun, he can return to his guard even if I react/read his f bash, you have a WEAPON in your dodge attacks that you can´t use, cause super turtle hardcore F, when you will acknowledge this??

list of offenders: Black prior, centurion and hito.

hito only in his lights when you do an opposite direction dodge attack.If you can time in the same direction he cant defend after he did his lights.
centurion dont give a ****, he can return always, you need forcibly a deflect.
Black prior the predilect char of devs, cant be punished with nuxia 99% of the timein High level, and only maybe 90% with PK.

BS , better then get rid of our dodge attacks if you cant use them on correct reads.

sorry for the rant, but im tired of this, some dodge attacks are useless is not like assassins have much on them anyways.

[deathtocakl]

Sounds like more of a personal problem. BP is strong tho

[King_of_Xibalba]

Sounds like more of a personal problem. BP is strong tho

lol is not, you can check by yourself, I even have videos of this, you cant or at least the window is so reduced that even if you dodge the bash( A thing I can) those people can return to their guards rendering dodge attack on correct read useless.

Try the bot of cent if you don´t believe me or the hito one with pk. They have absurd recovery times against dodge attacks.

Obviusly this only happen in high level, these people have great reflexes.

and if ubi need it I have prove of this against bots and people.But I´m sure they know.

Is BS, is not "personal" any people trying ranked with assassins know this.

[Tio_Croc]

That BP guy is busted.
The most reliable way to punish his bash is to predict back dodge and GB, but that is not really reliable by itself.
I think his chain bash should be GB'able just like Shaolin's.

There are ways of playing BP that is enjoyable for both players, like relying on his unblockable and his counter stance. However, there are some players that just care about winning.

[King_of_Xibalba]

That BP guy is busted.
The most reliable way to punish his bash is to predict back dodge and GB, but that is not really reliable by itself.
I think his chain bash should be GB'able just like Shaolin's.

There are ways of playing BP that is enjoyable for both players, like relying on his unblockable and his counter stance. However, there are some players that just care about winning.

and is worst if you dont have dodge attacks sometimes, like warlord.
You dash to evade his bashing, and nothing will work to punish him 99% of time.
thank god at least WL has a bash too.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

You can absolutely dodge attack punish bp's forward bash with pk on a correct read.

Also, cent and Hito has low block recoveries after their normal attacks, but Hito is guardbroken after light finisher.

[King_of_Xibalba]

You can absolutely dodge attack punish bp's forward bash with pk on a correct read.

yeah sometimes like 10-15% of time against these people , but some are or too fast or maybe I have super latency IDK, thats why I put that the window maybe is much less than others, this only happens against these three and only against certain players, or maybe my read is too late, but if "it is too late" why I can avoid the bash?

I acknowledge maybe something weird is happening, but is too much sometimes against these kind of players, but against cent and hito you can try on the training arena. And even bots sometimes will fail, these players jeez ...is better to not do it , never.

[King_of_Xibalba]

against normal player base , sure most of the times it will work.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

yeah sometimes like 10-15% of time against these people , but some are or too fast or maybe I have super latency IDK, thats why I put that the window maybe is much less than others, this only happens against these three and only against certain players, or maybe my read is too late, but if "it is too late" why I can avoid the bash?

I acknowledge maybe something weird is happening, but is too much sometimes against these kind of players, but against cent and hito you can try on the training arena. And even bots sometimes will fail, these players jeez ...is better to not do it , never.

BP has low recovery on bashes, but if you make him whiff just once with pk, that is 38 damage for you. For Hito and cent, a pk might be the worst opponent, since one bad read costs them so much hp (cent still dies from 3 gbs). I actually think you should really not dodge attack with pk at all, her dodge attacks are the only really bad parts of her kit (and the thrash feats).

Pk's main problem is bleed cleanse and optionselects, if they get did of those, she will probably skyrocket.

[King_of_Xibalba]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1061347854

Yes Goat, I know, you should avoid PK dodge heavies against these chars, but it sucks that she has a so limited moveset, Its probably my fault to attempt these punish, but is absurd you cant use them, not because you can be baited, thats fair, but because of some absurd defensive capabilities some chars have or because she is being neglected. Check the video please, also this dude is very hard to punish,I fought them other times and almost always he can block dodge attacks from PK on (my) correct read, It was my fault to attempt this, knowing he somehow can return to his guard, later I won over him , but I`m really tired of PK or in this case Nuxia being limited, almost handicapped in what I think should be the difference using assassins, since we have the worst things the game has to offer.