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    Open world Heroic too easy? + Fully optimized gear do we need?

    I know strange title, but iv'e been curious for a while about the max/fully/god rolled optimized gear/weapons arguments that have gone on in here.


    As far as i see God rolled/fully maxed/optimized gear are only needed for 2 things in this entire game.

    Raids
    Legendary difficulty (too few missions on that setting)


    Iv'e put 2400 + hours into this game and as of yet i do not have a full maxed Recalibration station and not one fully maxed/god rolled Build, because at the Heroic level and under iv'e never needed to have all that.

    I don't play Raids or Legendary not my thing.

    So i decided to do a test, make an all purple build with whatever i picked up and Recalibrate One stat on each piece no matter how good or bad it is. Then run Heroic open world to see if it's viable for just playing.

    Underneath are two clips/shorts of my test. (now let me make this clear) these two clips are not about speed running or how good/bad i am) i'm bad though they are just about how viable or how an all purple build can do regular gameplay on the Hardest open world difficulty. I use the same build on both clips


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWkeIMcLvdQ
    The build is at the end of this clip.(took me less than 1 hour 30 mins to put this build together) Purples are everywhere

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UtZvydWDU4

    PS: in both i deliberately take burn damage and other damage to see how long i last (oh and i don't use med kits, just fixer drone)

    PPS: Is Open world Heroic too easy? and do we need an Open world Legendary difficulty?

    Your thoughts.
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    I think open world Legendary is a great idea, but do bear in mind that open world Heroic was still a challenge prior to the HUGE buffs awhile back, which gave almost every build a +25% DPS boost, or thereabouts. This was due to, as you likely recall, a lot of complaining from the player base that the game was too hard, and primarily from players that had sub-optimal builds, poor tactics and strategy, and no synergy between their talents, etc. So, everybody got a huge buff to make the game easier, and now we're back to the point where the game is far too easy for the veteran players like ourselves. So, we may just have to use weaker gear, weapons, etc. to make it a challenge.
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    Originally Posted by Deltium Go to original post
    ISo, we may just have to use weaker gear, weapons, etc. to make it a challenge.
    Sorry to cut your post down but a couple of things.

    I hated the Nerfs to difficulty from day one it Was Not needed.

    Secondly i'm using infinitely weaker gear in those clips (you can check the build piece by piece in the first vid) but i did not find it a challenge or that difficult. (the build i'm using is so sub-optimal it's laughable.

    I think Legendary Open world is a must or needed.

    PS: Imagine on Legendary Open world one or two Control points manned by Either Rogues or Hunters
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    If there is a reason why its so easy its because it was nerfed due to too many players saying it was too hard.
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    I think had you faced elite npcs, maybe happened to have a patrol come at you from behind as well you'd feel differently. Im also of the belief the game varies how the game plays/npc strength depending on what you've got on. So they'll be more aggressive if you've better gear on etc.

    Woukd be interesting to go full purple gear group doing a stronghold or even a control point if you want to stick to open world. If you faced more than you had there i think you'd struggle. Be worth it for the challenge of it though.
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    isnt the diffirence between purple gears and yellow is the armor? except for weapons.

    global legendary, black tusk heavy patrolling the area? i'd be probably dead in an instant if not running pfe

    i remembered one random guy joined me on legendary with an all purple gears except for weapons. he said legendary has become too easy for him
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    Originally Posted by HonestlyOK1986 Go to original post
    I think had you faced elite npcs, maybe happened to have a patrol come at you from behind as well you'd feel differently. Im also of the belief the game varies how the game plays/npc strength depending on what you've got on. So they'll be more aggressive if you've better gear on etc.

    Woukd be interesting to go full purple gear group doing a stronghold or even a control point if you want to stick to open world. If you faced more than you had there i think you'd struggle. Be worth it for the challenge of it though.
    I agree and i will be testing it later on, and yeah i get what you are saying, i just wanted to test it out to start with and as you can see the build itself is abysmal, now if i was to make a specific purple build tailored to certain weapons and talents then maybe CP's and strongholds will be more viable, than this current build.
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    My recalibration station is almost maxed. Same goes for builds. It was up and down since march 2019, but right now it's solid. I appreciate that. I play solo, hero with four directives, predominant glasscannon. I like open world as it is.

    I still see lot's of stuff that needs to be fixed, since the release of the game. That should have priority, - if they ever fix it...

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    Heroic is just fine as it is, not too easy and not too hard....make a mistake and you die......it's balanced enough to make you feel the enemy has just the right amount of "The Upper Hand" but not enough to not be able to overcome them.

    BUT......there should be an option for legendary mode.
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    Originally Posted by HonestlyOK1986 Go to original post
    Im also of the belief the game varies how the game plays/npc strength depending on what you've got on. So they'll be more aggressive if you've better gear on etc.
    I'm at the belief it's the other way round, the weaker gear you have on the more they know and get more aggressive.
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