Conversation about general issues (and maybe how to fix them) - Anyone's Welcome! | Forums

[Ia-Shaggy]

Hello everyone! I decided to make this thread for people who want to discuss some general issues about the game at the moment. Whether it be gameplay, bugs, or general ideas about the game. Along with that, I hope that people can exchange ideas on how these problems could get fixed! This is meant to be a civil area, where people can discuss with one-another.

I will go ahead and let you all technically start the thread, because I don't want to give this post a biased spin.

[SARGON__]

which is why there is something called general discussion in which people utter the issues with which they come across...

[Ia-Shaggy]

You're right, but it lacks the idea of everyone coming together after the discussion to find a way to fix it, you know?

[SARGON__]

lacks the idea? One of the main reasons why forum's been found does include finding a solution or coming into consensus with other members of the forum...

[MrBdur]

You're right, but it lacks the idea of everyone coming together after the discussion to find a way to fix it, you know?

It's a nice sentiment but Ghost isn't wrong. That's what general discussion is.

Nice thought though, I get it.

Unfortunately, what you see already is the best it gets around here.

Lol

[Goat_of_Vermund]

Okay, here is what makes the game the most unenjoyable: idiots. I find duels a bit boring, I always have to put in my full attention, it is hardly relaxing, which is fine if you play on a competitive level. 4v4 is a bit more relaxing, only around 50% of the game is actual fighting against competent opponents, the rest are doing something unrelated, like boosting, clearing, or rotating between objectives. So, if I want to relax, I play Dominion or Breach, which is fun, except for one thing: idiots. You only need one idiotic team mate to ruin everyone- you know this one, the guy who runs into the enemy zone, finishing with 1-7 at the end, the one who comes in to feed revenge because he has zero ideas about how revenge gain works. If I think deeply about it, maybe they are not idiots, they might be people putting their time in playing the game, and when they are not playing, they don't read about games or watch videos.

It would be a completely understandable expectation to make the game itself educational. I mean, if you just play, and complete the tutorials, you will never find out anything about max punishes after certain counters, you will never know how guardbreak vulnerability or recoveries work, you certainly won't ever hear about optionselects, you will not know about how much renown you feed when you are killed in an enemy zone, you will not understand how revenge gain works or how it is different to fight an opponent who activated revenge (aside from the shield, armor and kickdown). The game should totally educate you about these things, I have never ever seen a game where you learn so little without youtube. Even MMO characters rotations can be figured out, you have the informations to make the necessary calculations, but you will never know about recoveries or vulnerabilities without making tests (optionselects are probably discovered by accident).

[garr1999]

Sadly no one wants to agree with certain changes because we all think differently if we all thought
n agreed on the same topic the game would've been way different.

[MrBdur]

Sadly no one wants to agree with certain changes because we all think differently if we all thought
n agreed on the same topic the game would've been way different.

Such a small statement but it speaks a large truth.

[MrBdur]

Okay, here is what makes the game the most unenjoyable: idiots. I find duels a bit boring, I always have to put in my full attention, it is hardly relaxing, which is fine if you play on a competitive level. 4v4 is a bit more relaxing, only around 50% of the game is actual fighting against competent opponents, the rest are doing something unrelated, like boosting, clearing, or rotating between objectives. So, if I want to relax, I play Dominion or Breach, which is fun, except for one thing: idiots. You only need one idiotic team mate to ruin everyone- you know this one, the guy who runs into the enemy zone, finishing with 1-7 at the end, the one who comes in to feed revenge because he has zero ideas about how revenge gain works. If I think deeply about it, maybe they are not idiots, they might be people putting their time in playing the game, and when they are not playing, they don't read about games or watch videos.

It would be a completely understandable expectation to make the game itself educational. I mean, if you just play, and complete the tutorials, you will never find out anything about max punishes after certain counters, you will never know how guardbreak vulnerability or recoveries work, you certainly won't ever hear about optionselects, you will not know about how much renown you feed when you are killed in an enemy zone, you will not understand how revenge gain works or how it is different to fight an opponent who activated revenge (aside from the shield, armor and kickdown). The game should totally educate you about these things, I have never ever seen a game where you learn so little without youtube. Even MMO characters rotations can be figured out, you have the informations to make the necessary calculations, but you will never know about recoveries or vulnerabilities without making tests (optionselects are probably discovered by accident).

The biggest problem with any online PvP based game: idiots. Bahahaha

There is always some idiot that ruins the game for others. That's the only enjoyment they get out of it, is ruining the enjoyment for others. It's a bit weird. Kind of reflects their own relationship with themselves.

I understand just messin around with people and being cheeky but straight up griefing is such a common thing and it needs to be stopped.

I agree 100% that it would greatly benefit the game to have better tutorials and just be more educational in general.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

The biggest problem with any online PvP based game: idiots. Bahahaha

There is always some idiot that ruins the game for others. That's the only enjoyment they get out of it, is ruining the enjoyment for others. It's a bit weird. Kind of reflects their own relationship with themselves.

I understand just messin around with people and being cheeky but straight up griefing is such a common thing and it needs to be stopped.

I agree 100% that it would greatly benefit the game to have better tutorials and just be more educational in general.

Yes. I am really angry when a team mate plays poorly (and I don't mean technically like parrying, I mean bad decisions), but I watch many FH videos, spend around an hour per day with the game. I like to research the game I am playing. But it is not a realistic expectation from others, you should not be forced to watch Freeze, Infinite or Barak to be competent.