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    Originally Posted by WolfenTank Go to original post
    you're still passionate about the game, despite raging a few times eh buddy hahahaha
    Lol I suppose I am, but passion is yet another symptom of ADHD.

    What I mean is not that passion comes from my disorder, but more so that it essentially makes me speak passionately about whatever it is I am talking about.

    It's... weird... lol.

    I highly doubt anyone will, but if you're ever stumped by a tone I take or just confused by something I've done, just google the main symptoms of ADHD and I will likely make more sense to you.

    I realize it isn't any of your responsibility to figure me out. That's my own responsibility but it's just a suggestion for guys like Knight Raime who have taken extreme offense to me.

    Anyways, I am still interested to see where For Honor goes and now that I'm more aware of option selects I would be willing to come back after they have been addressed. Until then, I will refrain from reinstalling the game.
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    Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
    GB selects are arguably worse than bash selects. You might have a chance of seeing some sort of tell that someone is trying to bash select you but there's zero way for you to actually know if someone is GB option selecting you. You have to make the read and feint into light just to find out. GB selects are also doable if they're OOS. Also while zone option selects are not as harmful as bash or GB selects it does allow Nobushi to option select with her back light input via doing a backwards zone input. Which is hilariously strong given the reach that move has. That combined with still being able to option select with hidden stance means Nobushi is still relatively strong defensively.

    Then we have the less used but probably most busted OS of guard switch OS. Which like slippy tech is busted as hell, very few people are aware on how to actually do it, and no one is sharing the info on how to perform because of how damaging the instances are. Even if zone option selects are the one healthy thing to come from having no input sanitizer the amount of damage done to the game without one cannot be understated. I'm greatful that the devs are finally doing something about it. It should've been addressed long ago but at this point I just hope whatever they do actually works.
    I understand that after ccu the gb OS became super inconsistent, so maybe only the most quick players are using it, iDK perhaps many of my nightmares are caused by this. Many players in high level are so suspicious, no cheaters per se, but surely they are using this,
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    Originally Posted by MayanKingGaming Go to original post
    I understand that after ccu the gb OS became super inconsistent, so maybe only the most quick players are using it, iDK perhaps many of my nightmares are caused by this. Many players in high level are so suspicious, no cheaters per se, but surely they are using this,
    GB OS's have been used by top players as often as zone OS's for as long as zone OS's have been used. I would think it be rare for you to run into someone who is doing guard switch OS's though. Any comp player that's aware of it forbids themselves from using it.
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    People say that gb optionselects are rare, but at this point I encounter it in every 5 games. I refuse to learn one more pabic button, especially since if ít is removed, it will be hard to play without it. At this point, I hope they will get rid of them all, including zone. I don't care if it is less unhealthy, making direction-based offense stronger surely would not hurt the game.

    I find this "I don't tell how gb OS works because it would ruin the game" thing kind of pathetic, since they are still using these optionselects themselves, and I have seen mainstream youtubers like Faraam encountering it, so many players are aware. And it took me like 3 minutes to Google it succesfully.
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    Originally Posted by Goat_of_Vermund Go to original post
    I dislike gb optionselects even more.
    Excuse me?
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    Originally Posted by Goat_of_Vermund Go to original post
    People say that gb optionselects are rare, but at this point I encounter it in every 5 games. I refuse to learn one more pabic button, especially since if ít is removed, it will be hard to play without it. At this point, I hope they will get rid of them all, including zone. I don't care if it is less unhealthy, making direction-based offense stronger surely would not hurt the game.

    I find this "I don't tell how gb OS works because it would ruin the game" thing kind of pathetic, since they are still using these optionselects themselves, and I have seen mainstream youtubers like Faraam encountering it, so many players are aware. And it took me like 3 minutes to Google it succesfully.
    GB option selects are not rare and people will freely share how to do it. It's guard switch option selects and slippy tech that are the two "techs" that the competitive community has agreed to not share how to use or use themselves. I've been assured that both have been sent to devs explaining how they're done.
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    Originally Posted by Goat_of_Vermund Go to original post
    People say that gb optionselects are rare, but at this point I encounter it in every 5 games. I refuse to learn one more pabic button, especially since if ít is removed, it will be hard to play without it. At this point, I hope they will get rid of them all, including zone. I don't care if it is less unhealthy, making direction-based offense stronger surely would not hurt the game.

    I find this "I don't tell how gb OS works because it would ruin the game" thing kind of pathetic, since they are still using these optionselects themselves, and I have seen mainstream youtubers like Faraam encountering it, so many players are aware. And it took me like 3 minutes to Google it succesfully.
    I practiced yesterday the input,it is hard and yeah it can be inconsistent, with pk is almost pressing the two buttons at the same time, maybe the window is 30 -40 ms, it was hard the first 5 minutes later i could do it 50% of the times succesfully against BP level 3 bot.

    I found it boring and distracting, maybe I can use it but currently i found them not worth the cost. I use a controller btw, maybe with kb and mouse it could be easier to input or just need more practice IDK, but if it is there people will use it.
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    It definetely doesn't feel hard on M+K, though I never practiced the input. I use three panic buttons almost on instinct (zone os, parry, backdodge), which makes me quite unsuccesful in dealing with some things by the traditional way. I don't want to weaken myself even more for a temporary boost if this thing will be removed anyway. It totally should be, since there is no official recognition of this tech, it can be assumed it is not intended.
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    Originally Posted by Goat_of_Vermund Go to original post
    It definetely doesn't feel hard on M+K, though I never practiced the input. I use three panic buttons almost on instinct (zone os, parry, backdodge), which makes me quite unsuccesful in dealing with some things by the traditional way. I don't want to weaken myself even more for a temporary boost if this thing will be removed anyway. It totally should be, since there is no official recognition of this tech, it can be assumed it is not intended.
    It's definitely not intended. Zone OS's are pretty much the only one we can maybe assume is intended. But I feel like it's less intended and more the devs at the time were fine with those specifically. If the rumor that input sanitization is what we're testing next TG to deal with OS's than that would pretty much axe any OS.
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    Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
    It's definitely not intended. Zone OS's are pretty much the only one we can maybe assume is intended. But I feel like it's less intended and more the devs at the time were fine with those specifically. If the rumor that input sanitization is what we're testing next TG to deal with OS's than that would pretty much axe any OS.
    That would be so great. I was always better with offense anyway, and I hate how you have to be ready to five different responses after every feint.

    It will also definetely widen the heroes considered viable on gm dom (like pk and shaman). And removing zone is would help raider and Nuxia.
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